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Posted by Pogonip on May 8, 2008, 2:34 pm
robb wrote:
>
> I understand inflation , prices go up and so on, but don't try
> and hide it because it makes me wonder what other thngs might be
> hidden ?
>
> is it %100 penut butter or maybe itis %90 peanut butter and %10
> food grade filler (wood pulp/mash, soybean by products etc..)
>
> It is mindboggling all the non nutritious fillers that go into
> food for a variety of reasons.
>
> robb

In peanut butter especially. I recently ran into a couple of young men
in the grocery, shopping for peanut butter. I suggested that they read
the list of ingredients on Jif, Skippy, etc., and compare it to the list
on Adams. I am "addicted" to Adam's crunchy peanut butter. Nothing in
the jar but peanuts and a little salt. Now I hear that there is some
kind of connection with diabetes - women who eat peanut butter several
times a week are less likely to get diabetes. Why, I don't know. Or
perhaps it's just that people not inclined to diabetes happen to like
peanut butter? But I eat peanut butter almost daily, and I don't have
diabetes.

--
Joanne
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Posted by Emily Bengston on May 9, 2008, 4:22 pm



On 5/8/08 1:34 PM, in article 482347a8$1@news.bnb-lp.com, "Pogonip"

> robb wrote:
>>
>> I understand inflation , prices go up and so on, but don't try
>> and hide it because it makes me wonder what other thngs might be
>> hidden ?
>>
>> is it %100 penut butter or maybe itis %90 peanut butter and %10
>> food grade filler (wood pulp/mash, soybean by products etc..)
>>
>> It is mindboggling all the non nutritious fillers that go into
>> food for a variety of reasons.
>>
>> robb
>
> In peanut butter especially. I recently ran into a couple of young men
> in the grocery, shopping for peanut butter. I suggested that they read
> the list of ingredients on Jif, Skippy, etc., and compare it to the list
> on Adams. I am "addicted" to Adam's crunchy peanut butter. Nothing in
> the jar but peanuts and a little salt. Now I hear that there is some
> kind of connection with diabetes - women who eat peanut butter several
> times a week are less likely to get diabetes. Why, I don't know. Or
> perhaps it's just that people not inclined to diabetes happen to like
> peanut butter? But I eat peanut butter almost daily, and I don't have
> diabetes.
I've eaten peanut butter for too many years to count, as have my siblings;
we are all diabetic, though I must say I was 70YO before contracting it
while some of my siblings were diabetic by the time they were in their 30s,
like our DM. Almost every sibling of hers was diabetic since young people,
except an older brother, who like me was about 70 before being diagnosed.
Strange world, sometimes.
BYW, all of us still enjoy PB, several different brands, but not Adam's,
which I have not heard of before. Right now, I think I have the Reduced Fat
Jif in the house; tastes good to me.
Emily
Emily


Posted by Pogonip on May 9, 2008, 4:49 pm
Emily Bengston wrote:
> BYW, all of us still enjoy PB, several different brands, but not Adam's,
> which I have not heard of before. Right now, I think I have the Reduced Fat
> Jif in the house; tastes good to me.
> Emily
> Emily
>

Read the label for the list of contents. IMHO, partially hydrogenated
vegetable oil is not peanut butter.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/

Posted by BEI Design on May 8, 2008, 2:35 pm
Pogonip wrote:

> What you say is very true, but we also are in a period in
> which our economy is not in good shape. The dollar has
> seriously lost value, at the same time that production
> and jobs in this country are being cut severely. For the
> first time, our children cannot expect to do better than
> their parents.
> I think what Robb is referring to is manufacturers who
> change the packaging on products, reducing the amount of
> contents, but keeping the same price, or even raising it.

The ups and downs in the stock market are a pretty good
refelction of the overall US economy. The "economy" is, and
always has been, cyclical:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EDJI&t=my&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?request_action=wh&graph_name=LN_cpsbref3

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?request_action=wh&graph_name=CU_cpibrief

Right now, we have *very low* inflation, low unemployment,
and yet everyone bellyaches about the price of
gas/lattes/housing/whatever. Businesses, whether mom-and-pop
or very large corporations have just a few options when
*their* costs increase: decrease quantity and charge the
same; increase prices; go out of business.

We, in the U.S., only recently began paying a higher price,
adjusted for inflation, for gasoline:

http://www.inflationdata.com/inflation/images/charts/Oil/Gasoline_inflation_chart.htm

If Robb thinks 2.6%-4% CPI is a large number he apparently
does not remember *double digit* inflation in the 70s and
80s. I do:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/25/AR2005102501457.html

I also vividly remember living through a couple of hellish
years when DH never knew from one week to the next if his
company was going to include him in (necessary for survival)
layoffs. Fortunately we dodged the bullets, he retired
after 42 years with the same company.

I'm not saying things are perfect, but to complain about
today's low inflation rate is silly.

Beverly



Posted by Pogonip on May 8, 2008, 4:39 pm
BEI Design wrote:
> Pogonip wrote:
>
>> What you say is very true, but we also are in a period in
>> which our economy is not in good shape. The dollar has
>> seriously lost value, at the same time that production
>> and jobs in this country are being cut severely. For the
>> first time, our children cannot expect to do better than
>> their parents.
>> I think what Robb is referring to is manufacturers who
>> change the packaging on products, reducing the amount of
>> contents, but keeping the same price, or even raising it.
>
> The ups and downs in the stock market are a pretty good
> refelction of the overall US economy. The "economy" is, and
> always has been, cyclical:
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EDJI&t=my&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=
>
>
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?request_action=wh&graph_name=LN_cpsbref3
>
>
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?request_action=wh&graph_name=CU_cpibrief
>
> Right now, we have *very low* inflation, low unemployment,
> and yet everyone bellyaches about the price of
> gas/lattes/housing/whatever. Businesses, whether mom-and-pop
> or very large corporations have just a few options when
> *their* costs increase: decrease quantity and charge the
> same; increase prices; go out of business.
>
> We, in the U.S., only recently began paying a higher price,
> adjusted for inflation, for gasoline:
>
>
http://www.inflationdata.com/inflation/images/charts/Oil/Gasoline_inflation_chart.htm
>
> If Robb thinks 2.6%-4% CPI is a large number he apparently
> does not remember *double digit* inflation in the 70s and
> 80s. I do:
>
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/25/AR2005102501457.html
>
> I also vividly remember living through a couple of hellish
> years when DH never knew from one week to the next if his
> company was going to include him in (necessary for survival)
> layoffs. Fortunately we dodged the bullets, he retired
> after 42 years with the same company.
>
> I'm not saying things are perfect, but to complain about
> today's low inflation rate is silly.
>
> Beverly
>
>

Stand by, then, because inflation is coming. It has to. We owe an
extraordinary amount of money, and the only way to pay it back is to
devalue the dollar even more. According to a House committee report
dated September 2007:
> The U.S. government has a total debt of over $5 trillion owed to outside
parties. Nearly
> half of that is owed to foreign governments, primarily to Japan, China, and
the United
> Kingdom.
At that time, the total national debt was $8.9 trillion. As of May 8,
2008, it's $9,361,092,875,743.26.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/

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