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waterproof bias binding tape duh 08-14-2006
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Posted by duh on August 14, 2006, 1:00 am
I've got a pattern for a tent, and it says to sew binding tape to the
roof seam. I assume this is bias binding tape, to give the seam strength.

Does this come in a waterproof version?


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Posted by HC on August 14, 2006, 3:15 am
G'day Duh

I wouldn't use cotton bias binding, but instead cut strips from ripstop
nylon, this will not only be stronger but won't act as a wick to allow
water ingress. Make sure when you finish the tent that you do 'all'
needle holes with a wax stick, preferably on a sunny day so it gets
right into the needle holes. Rain water will find any holes you miss
and the water will wick to the inside, even a stray thread will act as a
wick......I've had it happen!!

Have fun.....tent making is great but it's just as much fun going camping.

Bronwyn ;-)

duh wrote:
> I've got a pattern for a tent, and it says to sew binding tape to the
> roof seam. I assume this is bias binding tape, to give the seam strength.
>
> Does this come in a waterproof version?
>
>

Posted by duh on August 14, 2006, 11:57 am

HC wrote:
> G'day Duh
>
> I wouldn't use cotton bias binding, but instead cut strips from ripstop
> nylon, this will not only be stronger but won't act as a wick to allow
> water ingress. Make sure when you finish the tent that you do 'all'
> needle holes with a wax stick, preferably on a sunny day so it gets
> right into the needle holes. Rain water will find any holes you miss
> and the water will wick to the inside, even a stray thread will act as a
> wick......I've had it happen!!
>
> Have fun.....tent making is great but it's just as much fun going camping.
>
> Bronwyn ;-)

Thanks Bronwyn. I've been getting all this great waterproof fabric (at
least I can't blow through it) in the $1 bin at Walmarts. Lots of
ideas, and maybe a few prototypes in the offing.

Dwight


Posted by Michael Daly on August 14, 2006, 2:38 pm
duh wrote:

> Thanks Bronwyn. I've been getting all this great waterproof fabric (at
> least I can't blow through it) in the $1 bin at Walmarts.

Remember that real tent fabric is fire resistant and the stuff you're buying is
not (at least it is extremely unlikely, given the cost difference and relative
scarcity of fire resistant nylons and polyesters). There are many reasons to
not cook in your tent and this is another one. Don't even pitch near a
campfire. Use flashlights and never a candle inside.

Polyester seam binding is your best bet - it is more UV resistant than nylon.
However, many simply use a plain hem for this type of tarp - even Integral
Designs ($$$). For the ridge seam, use a mock-felled seam. The seam binding
sounds like overkill to me. See Penny's web site for info on this:

<http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/tips/silnylon.asp>

Look for Silnet from McNett. It is a seam sealant made for silnylon fabrics
(assuming you're using the silnylon as per the instructions). You can paint it
over all seams and it will waterproof them. With silnylon, nothing else (that I
know of) will work as well.

I was tempted to make that same tent some time ago. It looks like a good design.

Mike

Posted by Kate Dicey on August 14, 2006, 4:24 am
duh wrote:

> I've got a pattern for a tent, and it says to sew binding tape to the
> roof seam. I assume this is bias binding tape, to give the seam strength.

Bias tape is stretchy, and not particularly strong. What type of tape
does the pattern/instructions ask for? If it says 'seam binding tape'
this is NOT bias binding.

> Does this come in a waterproof version?

No, but you can cut your own from waterproof fabric. The easiest way is
with a rotary cutter, a cutting mat, and a quilting ruler, or second
easiest is by drawing lines and cutting with scissors.

You can cut straight tapes the same way, but they may have a tendency to
fray on uncoated fabrics. I need to re-tape the seams on a tent fly. I
may well choose to do this with a heat sealed seam sealing tape like
this: http://www.profabrics.co.uk/shop/show_product_info.php?id=TSB3-91,
as where the tape is worn, the fly is leaking. You need to use extreme
caution doing this as the sealant will withstand much more heat than
the rip-stop nylon! Again, this is where the quilter's tools come in
handy, as I'll use my Clover mini-iron:
http://www.sleepingbearcrafts.com/product.php?productid=426&cat=0&bestseller&bestseller

Here are some more tape/seal things that might help you:
http://www.profabrics.co.uk/snap_product_search.php

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