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waterproof bias binding tape duh 08-14-2006
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Posted by duh on August 14, 2006, 4:57 pm

small change wrote:
> > duh wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/ultralight/Projects/Pattern_NightWing.pdf
> >>
> >> this is something like I'm thinking about doing. Figured I might add
> >> some vestibules to it.
>
> chiming in late here.
>
> www.backpacking.net/bbs has a gear maker's board that has many, many
> experienced tent and tarp makers who are familiar with the designs,
> materials and issues you are encountering. Much more so that this board
> where there are very few who have done the kind of projects you are
> attempting, and have actually used the materials and techniques.

Yes, you're right. I started asking about something I thought was a
general sewing question and it morphed.


> www.owfinc.com sell both nylon grosgrain, and folded nylon bias binding,
> which is what is used on tent seams. Grosgrain is rarely used in tents
> except to cover exposed floor and wall join seams. Seam binding on tapes is
> never waterproof, it's only put on when seam is not felled, to prevent
> seams allowances from raveling. Waterproofing your seam would be another
> process. Most tent seams are not waterproofed unless it is a single wall
> construction - otherwise you rely on the fly for water protection. Tent
> manufacturers use the double folded nylon type of bias tape.

This guy was saying to use it to take the strain off the catenary top
seam, which is being stretched a lot.

>
> For waterproofing tent seams, you must match the fabric and the adhesive.
> For example, you use silnet with silnylon, seam grip with a urethane/nylon
> configuration etc.
>
> I don't know what Bronwyn is referring to as a "wax stick" for
> waterproofing, maybe she can elaborate? Never heard of such a thing, and
> frankly that sounds stop gap unless your tent is waxed cotton.

I was just going to use one of the plastic seam fillers.


Posted by small change on August 14, 2006, 7:53 pm

>
>
> I was just going to use one of the plastic seam fillers.

Seam grip by McNett is the only one that's worth anything ( seam SEAL brand
is water soluable and total crap if you ask me) but if you using silnylon,
you must use a product that's formulated specifically for silicon. Silnet by
Mcnett is the only commerical one, but some of the gearmakers at
backpacking.net do a homemade forumula.





Posted by Taunto on August 15, 2006, 11:47 pm
small change wrote:
>
>>
>>I was just going to use one of the plastic seam fillers.
>
>
> Seam grip by McNett is the only one that's worth anything ( seam SEAL brand
> is water soluable and total crap if you ask me) but if you using silnylon,
> you must use a product that's formulated specifically for silicon. Silnet by
> Mcnett is the only commerical one, but some of the gearmakers at
> backpacking.net do a homemade forumula.

How do I determine if its silicone, or urethane? I've got some no-name
no-description fabric from Walmart I'm doing prototypes with.

Posted by small change on August 16, 2006, 12:06 am

> small change wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I was just going to use one of the plastic seam fillers.
>>
>>
>> Seam grip by McNett is the only one that's worth anything ( seam SEAL
>> brand is water soluable and total crap if you ask me) but if you using
>> silnylon, you must use a product that's formulated specifically for
>> silicon. Silnet by Mcnett is the only commerical one, but some of the
>> gearmakers at backpacking.net do a homemade forumula.
>
> How do I determine if its silicone, or urethane? I've got some no-name
> no-description fabric from Walmart I'm doing prototypes with.

Urethane coating is always on one side of the fabric, not both. Silnylon is
typically impregnated and looks the same on both sides. Not sure how a burn
test would come out.




Posted by duh on August 16, 2006, 12:33 am
small change wrote:
>
>>small change wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I was just going to use one of the plastic seam fillers.
>>>
>>>
>>>Seam grip by McNett is the only one that's worth anything ( seam SEAL
>>>brand is water soluable and total crap if you ask me) but if you using
>>>silnylon, you must use a product that's formulated specifically for
>>>silicon. Silnet by Mcnett is the only commerical one, but some of the
>>>gearmakers at backpacking.net do a homemade forumula.
>>
>>How do I determine if its silicone, or urethane? I've got some no-name
>>no-description fabric from Walmart I'm doing prototypes with.
>
>
> Urethane coating is always on one side of the fabric, not both. Silnylon is
> typically impregnated and looks the same on both sides. Not sure how a burn
> test would come out.
>
>
>
Are those the only two coatings used? What about coated packcloth or
something like that (hopefully that exists. I just pulled it out of the
air. I've got something like it here).

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