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Posted by Larry Jaques on July 1, 2007, 9:49 am
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:21:18 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Lew
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>Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> > You in a city with much schmatta trade? If you go to an industrial
> > sewing machine place they'll fix you up with a used machine like a
> > Juki that will run forever. (those machines actually have an oil pan).
> > They often do this for young 'uns setting up as fashion designers.
>Yep, my landlord has a bunch of industrial machines used to make
>motorcycle bags.
>Doubt he has a machine that is less than 50 years old.
>Also, if you are in an area that has some sailmakers, talk to them.
He'll need to talk to them in the winter, when they're not busy.
They'd charge an extra fee right now just to look. ;)
I picked up my used Consew 210 for $395. It's an oil-sump machine and
came with table, motor, clutch, extra clutch disk, bobbins, spools of
thread, extra needles, extra feet, and a stainless binding feed.
It's used to go through 2 layers of 680 denier nylon sheeting, a layer
of 1/8" or 1/4" foam, 2 layers of spray glue, and 2 layers of folded
binding. It'll do this all day long. (though I can't ;)
- Metaphors Be With You -
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Posted by Gunner on July 1, 2007, 1:45 am
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:05:32 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
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>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:35 -0700, the renowned Too_Many_Tools
>>On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home
>>workshop that require a sewing machine.
>>I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing
>>machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas,
>>cotton, thin leather)
>>Any suggestions?
>>Any suggested machines?
>>Thanks
>>TMT
>You in a city with much schmatta trade? If you go to an industrial
>sewing machine place they'll fix you up with a used machine like a
>Juki that will run forever. (those machines actually have an oil pan).
>They often do this for young 'uns setting up as fashion designers.
>Best regards,
>Spehro Pefhany
Or a good ConSew.
Reliable Tool gets em in from time to time also.
Gunner
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer,
cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects. Lazarus Long
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Posted by Bob in Phx on July 1, 2007, 3:28 am
My 1950's anker sewed through 7 layers of marine vinyl and then about a 1/8
inch pvc extrusion. (camper awning cover). Then the wife used it to work on
her quilt. Great machine, big, black and chrome!!! I also have a Singer Red
Head treadle, with a leather belt foot power drive. Check with any good old
sewing machine and vacuum repair place. They can tell you the best machines,
or try an industrial machine repair center. Then watch Craigslist or the
classifieds... I found my Anker in a thrift shop... 15 bucks.
bob in phx
Side story on the Anker.
I found the Anker in the "as is" section of the local Mormon run thrift
shop. I figured I had better plug it in and see if the motor was good. Well
I plugged it in and it started to run, but without me touching the foot
peddle. So I un-plugged it and gave a close look at the peddle. I noticed a
couple of the rivets on the bottom were worn off. I also hear the remains of
the rivets inside the peddle, where they should not be. So I decided to see
if there was an speed up if I pushed on the peddle. So I plugged it in again
and put my hand on the peddle. Bang, 110 volts were shooting up my arm. So
again, I am in the middle of a very religious run store.... What came out of
my mouth as I got my hand off the peddle????? You guessed it, profanity. And
at the top of my lungs!!! I must have had 20 people, employees too, looking
at me.. I sheepishly explained that I had just gotten a pretty good
electrical shock... They bought it and I bought the machine!!!!
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> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:05:32 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
>>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:35 -0700, the renowned Too_Many_Tools
>>>On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home
>>>workshop that require a sewing machine.
>>>I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing
>>>machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas,
>>>cotton, thin leather)
>>>Any suggestions?
>>>Any suggested machines?
>>>Thanks
>>>TMT
>>You in a city with much schmatta trade? If you go to an industrial
>>sewing machine place they'll fix you up with a used machine like a
>>Juki that will run forever. (those machines actually have an oil pan).
>>They often do this for young 'uns setting up as fashion designers.
>>Best regards,
>>Spehro Pefhany
> Or a good ConSew.
> Reliable Tool gets em in from time to time also.
> Gunner
> A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
> balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
> take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
> analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer,
> cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
> Specialization is for insects. Lazarus Long
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Posted by on July 1, 2007, 11:22 am
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:35 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
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>On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home
>workshop that require a sewing machine.
>I am looking for recommendations in what to look for in a sewing
>machine that will handle a number of differnet materials (canvas,
>cotton, thin leather)
>Any suggestions?
>Any suggested machines?
>Thanks
>TMT
Here are some portable walking-foots
http://www.allbrands.com/products/abc0585.html I have the Thompson,
although it cost a lot less back when I bought it. If I can get the
material under the foot it will feed cleanly and has never broken a
needle. I mounted it on (in) a 3'X5' folding table to minimize
struggling with large projects, and yet the whole thing can be tucked
away when not in use. I added a knee lever for the foot lift (simple
rope and pulley arrangement), and a better foot switch to allow slower
motor speed. Other than occasional oiling, zero maintenance in 20
years of occasional use. If I was buying today I'd probably get
something like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Industrial-Walking-Foot-Sewing-Machine-9-COMPLETE_W0QQitemZ250137952164QQihZ015QQcategoryZ26256QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Obviously not made for real industrial use, but perhaps just the right
thing for the average home shop. Heavier and more powerful machines
are made to sew FAST. For occasional amateur sewing of heavy materials
you want to be able to go slow, sometimes just a few stitches at a
time.
Wayne
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Posted by Andy Dingley on July 1, 2007, 12:09 pm
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:51:35 -0700, Too_Many_Tools
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>On occasion I find myself needing to create items for the home
>workshop that require a sewing machine.
1950s Black and Gold Singer, with motor.
Basic, but indestructible and still easy to get parts for.
Sews thin stuff, thick stuff and pretty much everything you actually
_need_ to sew.
1970s diecast aluminium zig-zag machine, from a good maker. This will
let you sew bar tacks, which are useful for strengthening. It should
also have a "sleeve arm" so that it can sew inside narrow tubes.
Early Japanese imports (New Home) are good, as are Europeans and _some_
US machines. This is about the time that over-complex unreliable fragile
machines started to appear (US first, then Europe) though, so be
careful.
1980s Pfaff 1221 / 1222
Does everything. has a walking foot so it will sew slippery kite fabric
too. Much sought after.
Industrial.
Too big, too awkward to store, too expensive. Often highly specialised
too, such as having flat bed rather than a sleeve arm, so they aren't
useful for small work. Very few of us need a real industiral. Mine's a
Brother, but I don't use it much.
If it's a speciliased industrial, such as having a full walking foot,
leather or upholstery sewing adaptions, then the price can get very high
indeed.
Don't underestimate the significance of thread and needles, more than
machines, For leather in particular, you need the right needle to sew
well.
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> > You in a city with much schmatta trade? If you go to an industrial
> > sewing machine place they'll fix you up with a used machine like a
> > Juki that will run forever. (those machines actually have an oil pan).
> > They often do this for young 'uns setting up as fashion designers.
>Yep, my landlord has a bunch of industrial machines used to make
>motorcycle bags.
>Doubt he has a machine that is less than 50 years old.
>Also, if you are in an area that has some sailmakers, talk to them.