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Posted by NightMist on March 30, 2008, 6:14 pm
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:04:09 -0400, "Ron Anderson"
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>> Anybody upgraded an old motor with one of those new servo motors?
>> I have to say having the thing start up immediately without having to
>> turn the flywheel is a dazzling concept. Being able to begin with both
>> hands on the work, and starting at a constant speed are tremendous
>> sale points.
>> I am looking at this one:
>> http://www.allbrands.com/products/abp14547-0530.html#See%20Included
>> But I need to do more research first.
>> The current motor is 1/13 horse, a jump to 1/2 seems like quite a lot.
>> I would want to make sure the machine could handle it, though heaven
>> knows I could use the torque on some leather projects.
>> DH is already having a joyous time researching pedal possibilities.
>> I have been treated to lectures on the differences between hand and
>> foot controls, adapting potentiometers to foot pedals, and all such
>> fun stuff. He is curretly having fun figuring out how to build
>> controls into an old Cybaby WahWah pedal (a guitar effect). Just
>> because he thinks it would be majorly cool to have me running the
>> sewing machine with a wahwah pedal.
>> Oh! It is a Pfaff 130. Which is why I suspect it could handle a
>> half a horse.
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>If you have the correct table to mount the industrial motor on then as long
>as you keep it on the low speed and the machine oiled well you should be ok.
>It is over kill however for a home sewing machine.
>If your going that route no need to look into foot controls as it does not
>use one.
>On the other hand many folks use the 1.5 amp universal home motors and
>coupled with an electronic foot control no heat build up.
DH tells me mounting should be a minimal issue.The current motor is on
a "universal mounting plate", and if the new motor doesn't like that
one, another more suitable one can be obtained.
I know the servo motors don't require a foot pedal, but I would want
one modded in, more or less an on off switch so I can start up with
both hands on the work when needed. I sew a lot of silk, and I sew a
lot of leather, and I sew a lot of long seams on both since I am doing
repeat work for a lady who wants 6 and 9 foot plus finished widths of
both. Both silk and leather are materials that you do not want to let
roam free when you are sewing acres of it at a go.
Since the leather is usually upholstery grade, running 5 to 8 ounce
weight, I want a little oomph when I need it. Which is why I was
looking at an industrial level upgrade. Besides when I work I work.
If I am putting in an 18 hour day on something or other, I do not want
to have to keep taking breaks to let the machine cool down. Bad
enough that I have to take breaks to keep my fingers from cramping or
to keep from hardening in postion at the machine! (G)
NightMist
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Nothing has been the same since that house fell on my sister.
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Posted by Pogonip on March 30, 2008, 5:33 pm
NightMist wrote:
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> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:04:09 -0400, "Ron Anderson"
>
>> If you have the correct table to mount the industrial motor on then as long
>> as you keep it on the low speed and the machine oiled well you should be ok.
>> It is over kill however for a home sewing machine.
>> If your going that route no need to look into foot controls as it does not
>> use one.
>> On the other hand many folks use the 1.5 amp universal home motors and
>> coupled with an electronic foot control no heat build up.
> DH tells me mounting should be a minimal issue.The current motor is on
> a "universal mounting plate", and if the new motor doesn't like that
> one, another more suitable one can be obtained.
>
> I know the servo motors don't require a foot pedal, but I would want
> one modded in, more or less an on off switch so I can start up with
> both hands on the work when needed. I sew a lot of silk, and I sew a
> lot of leather, and I sew a lot of long seams on both since I am doing
> repeat work for a lady who wants 6 and 9 foot plus finished widths of
> both. Both silk and leather are materials that you do not want to let
> roam free when you are sewing acres of it at a go.
> Since the leather is usually upholstery grade, running 5 to 8 ounce
> weight, I want a little oomph when I need it. Which is why I was
> looking at an industrial level upgrade. Besides when I work I work.
> If I am putting in an 18 hour day on something or other, I do not want
> to have to keep taking breaks to let the machine cool down. Bad
> enough that I have to take breaks to keep my fingers from cramping or
> to keep from hardening in postion at the machine! (G)
>
> NightMist
I suggest you take Ron's counsel on this - the motor he's suggesting
would not likely overheat, as he says, and would give you everything you
want. Ron knows his stuff.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
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Posted by Sharon Hays on March 31, 2008, 9:45 am
Pogonip wrote:
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> I suggest you take Ron's counsel on this - the motor he's suggesting
> would not likely overheat, as he says, and would give you everything you
> want. Ron knows his stuff.
I second this. Ron knows his stuff, and all of our machines very well. And
he's incredibly generous with that knowledge. If he says "don't" I really
wouldn't.
Sharon
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and just annoys the
pig.
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Posted by Ron Anderson on March 31, 2008, 8:05 am
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> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:04:09 -0400, "Ron Anderson"
>>> Anybody upgraded an old motor with one of those new servo motors?
>>> I have to say having the thing start up immediately without having to
>>> turn the flywheel is a dazzling concept. Being able to begin with both
>>> hands on the work, and starting at a constant speed are tremendous
>>> sale points.
>>> I am looking at this one:
>>> http://www.allbrands.com/products/abp14547-0530.html#See%20Included
>>> But I need to do more research first.
>>> The current motor is 1/13 horse, a jump to 1/2 seems like quite a lot.
>>> I would want to make sure the machine could handle it, though heaven
>>> knows I could use the torque on some leather projects.
>>> DH is already having a joyous time researching pedal possibilities.
>>> I have been treated to lectures on the differences between hand and
>>> foot controls, adapting potentiometers to foot pedals, and all such
>>> fun stuff. He is curretly having fun figuring out how to build
>>> controls into an old Cybaby WahWah pedal (a guitar effect). Just
>>> because he thinks it would be majorly cool to have me running the
>>> sewing machine with a wahwah pedal.
>>> Oh! It is a Pfaff 130. Which is why I suspect it could handle a
>>> half a horse.
>>If you have the correct table to mount the industrial motor on then as
>>long
>>as you keep it on the low speed and the machine oiled well you should be
>>ok.
>>It is over kill however for a home sewing machine.
>>If your going that route no need to look into foot controls as it does not
>>use one.
>>On the other hand many folks use the 1.5 amp universal home motors and
>>coupled with an electronic foot control no heat build up.
> DH tells me mounting should be a minimal issue.The current motor is on
> a "universal mounting plate", and if the new motor doesn't like that
> one, another more suitable one can be obtained.
> I know the servo motors don't require a foot pedal, but I would want
> one modded in, more or less an on off switch so I can start up with
> both hands on the work when needed. I sew a lot of silk, and I sew a
> lot of leather, and I sew a lot of long seams on both since I am doing
> repeat work for a lady who wants 6 and 9 foot plus finished widths of
> both. Both silk and leather are materials that you do not want to let
> roam free when you are sewing acres of it at a go.
> Since the leather is usually upholstery grade, running 5 to 8 ounce
> weight, I want a little oomph when I need it. Which is why I was
> looking at an industrial level upgrade. Besides when I work I work.
> If I am putting in an 18 hour day on something or other, I do not want
> to have to keep taking breaks to let the machine cool down. Bad
> enough that I have to take breaks to keep my fingers from cramping or
> to keep from hardening in postion at the machine! (G)
> NightMist
> --
> Nothing has been the same since that house fell on my sister.
My guess is DH has never seen this motor save the photo on the web page.
Likely does not comprehend it weighs in at 35 pounds or so, You can NOT
modify it to use a foot control. First off foot controls are able to handle
only 1.5-2.0 amps the Servo motor is more like 4-5 amps. Also the electronic
in it would go berserk if you mess with it.
Just my advise. Not really worth the much unless you believe 30 years as a
technician means anything.
--
Ron Anderson A1 Sewing Machine
18 Dingman Rd., Sand Lake, NY 12153
518-469-5133
http://www.a1sewingmachine.com
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>> I have to say having the thing start up immediately without having to
>> turn the flywheel is a dazzling concept. Being able to begin with both
>> hands on the work, and starting at a constant speed are tremendous
>> sale points.
>> I am looking at this one:
>> http://www.allbrands.com/products/abp14547-0530.html#See%20Included
>> But I need to do more research first.
>> The current motor is 1/13 horse, a jump to 1/2 seems like quite a lot.
>> I would want to make sure the machine could handle it, though heaven
>> knows I could use the torque on some leather projects.
>> DH is already having a joyous time researching pedal possibilities.
>> I have been treated to lectures on the differences between hand and
>> foot controls, adapting potentiometers to foot pedals, and all such
>> fun stuff. He is curretly having fun figuring out how to build
>> controls into an old Cybaby WahWah pedal (a guitar effect). Just
>> because he thinks it would be majorly cool to have me running the
>> sewing machine with a wahwah pedal.
>> Oh! It is a Pfaff 130. Which is why I suspect it could handle a
>> half a horse.