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Posted by Square Peg on May 3, 2009, 10:28 pm
On Sun, 03 May 2009 21:30:39 -0400, Joy Beeson
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>wrote:
>> Well, you are a silly little twit, aren't you?
>Plonk.
>Disagreement is encouraged. Unfounded suspicion may be considered an
>understandable mistake. Name-calling is well outside the boundary of
>civilized behavior.
Calling me a troll is not name calling?
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Posted by Joy Beeson on May 7, 2009, 6:41 pm
Responding to Square Peg's post is a flagrant Starguard violation, but
my writing-teacher hat keeps jumping off the coat rack, so I've posted
a reply in rec.crafts.textiles.misc, which was created for posts that
don't fit other groups in the rec.crafts.textiles hierarchy, and which
(at the moment) has no conversations to disrupt.
--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
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Posted by Bruce Fletcher (remove denture on May 7, 2009, 6:45 pm
Joy Beeson wrote:
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> Responding to Square Peg's post is a flagrant Starguard violation, but
> my writing-teacher hat keeps jumping off the coat rack, so I've posted
> a reply in rec.crafts.textiles.misc, which was created for posts that
> don't fit other groups in the rec.crafts.textiles hierarchy, and which
> (at the moment) has no conversations to disrupt.
>
Starguard? More information please.
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Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney UK
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<http://claremont.islandblogging.co.uk>
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Posted by Joy Beeson on May 8, 2009, 4:50 pm
On Thu, 07 May 2009 23:45:47 +0100, "Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures
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> Starguard? More information please.
Snitched from a quoted quote and posted without the author's
permission:
Starguard's Guaranteed Fire Extinguisher
A very wise Fidonet system operator once told me her "magic formula"
for putting out flamewars. I have since posted it to two newsgroups
and seen it praised by their administrators. And it's so SIMPLE....
Take the premise that chronic flamers have an ego problem. Consider
what result they hope to achieve: to get people "going", to get a
reaction. So! What to do? Follow this very simple plan:
Ignore them.
If you feel you absolutely MUST answer them, answer them only ONCE, no
matter what else they reply with. (I don't care if you have to bite
your lip, kick your desk, get up and run around the room...sit on your
hands. Deny them the satisfaction!)
If you DO break down and answer them: refuse to stoop to their level,
no matter what the provocation. (Why should you allow them to drag
you down to their childish level?!)
(I might add that part of the genius of Starguard's Plan is that
answering ONLY ONCE forces you to make a careful, well-reasoned
rebuttal...try to hew to this part of the formula. She got her
inspiration from a rule West Point gave up because it was TOO
effective....)
But most of all: IGNORE them.
That's the worst torture of all to an egotist!
And it WORKS.
Suze Hammond
tri...@agora.rain.com
with thanks to "Starguard" SysOp of "the Overworked Dragon BBS",
Portland, OR
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Posted by Pogonip on May 8, 2009, 5:25 pm
Joy Beeson wrote:
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> On Thu, 07 May 2009 23:45:47 +0100, "Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures
>
>> Starguard? More information please.
>
> Snitched from a quoted quote and posted without the author's
> permission:
>
>
> Starguard's Guaranteed Fire Extinguisher
>
> A very wise Fidonet system operator once told me her "magic formula"
> for putting out flamewars. I have since posted it to two newsgroups
> and seen it praised by their administrators. And it's so SIMPLE....
>
> Take the premise that chronic flamers have an ego problem. Consider
> what result they hope to achieve: to get people "going", to get a
> reaction. So! What to do? Follow this very simple plan:
>
> Ignore them.
>
> If you feel you absolutely MUST answer them, answer them only ONCE, no
> matter what else they reply with. (I don't care if you have to bite
> your lip, kick your desk, get up and run around the room...sit on your
> hands. Deny them the satisfaction!)
>
> If you DO break down and answer them: refuse to stoop to their level,
> no matter what the provocation. (Why should you allow them to drag
> you down to their childish level?!)
>
> (I might add that part of the genius of Starguard's Plan is that
> answering ONLY ONCE forces you to make a careful, well-reasoned
> rebuttal...try to hew to this part of the formula. She got her
> inspiration from a rule West Point gave up because it was TOO
> effective....)
>
> But most of all: IGNORE them.
> That's the worst torture of all to an egotist!
>
> And it WORKS.
>
> Suze Hammond
> tri...@agora.rain.com
> with thanks to "Starguard" SysOp of "the Overworked Dragon BBS",
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
Yes, it works if you can persuade people to do it. In my past life, I
spent a few years moderating message boards. I recommended, demanded,
wheedled, whined, pleaded and begged posters to follow this simple,
logical, common-sensical method of dealing with "trolls" -- a word which
we moderators never, ever used. But there is this basic Maslovian need
- after food, shelter, and sex comes the need to have the last word. ;-)
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bernardschopen/
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>> Well, you are a silly little twit, aren't you?
>Plonk.
>Disagreement is encouraged. Unfounded suspicion may be considered an
>understandable mistake. Name-calling is well outside the boundary of
>civilized behavior.