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Posted by BEI Design on May 29, 2006, 4:15 pm
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> Hi -
> I'm looking for pajama patterns in men's 4x. Can someone point out
> a
> source to me?
KwikSew has men's pajamas in XXL, it would not be too difficult to
grade them up two sizes.
http://www.kwiksew.com/
McCalls also carries men's PJs in XXL
http://www.mccallpattern.com/item/M4244.htm?tab=unisex_men_uniforms&page=1
You might also be able to find 4X patterns for "scrubs", which would
work for PJs.
HTH,
Beverly
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Posted by BookWight on May 29, 2006, 5:53 pm
Wandering along the edges of rec.crafts.textiles.sewing, I found the
following bit of electronic flotsam written by "BEI Design"
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> KwikSew has men's pajamas in XXL, it would not be too difficult to
> grade them up two sizes.
>
> http://www.kwiksew.com/
>
> McCalls also carries men's PJs in XXL
> http://www.mccallpattern.com/item/M4244.htm?tab=unisex_men_uniforms&pag
> e=1
>
> You might also be able to find 4X patterns for "scrubs", which would
> work for PJs.
Could you please point me to instructions on the web for "grading" a
pattern up? I have to admit being new to sewing.
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Posted by BEI Design on May 29, 2006, 6:26 pm
BookWight wrote:
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> Could you please point me to instructions on the web for
> "grading" a pattern up? I have to admit being new to sewing.
I found this:
http://www.taunton.com/threads/pages/t00018.asp
that's not entirely clear, though.
If you buy a multi-size pattern, you'll see several cutting lines at
the edge of each pattern piece. In order to grade *up* from the
largest size, you have to add an additional 1/4" (or more) *for each
additional size* at each of the places where the lines diverge. I
know this isn't very clear, and I don't think pattern grading is a
good project for a beginner. Maybe you can find an experienced sewist
in your area to give you some hands on assistance?
Or, buy two patterns and use the second one to add size by overlapping
the pieces, moving the second pieces outside the original XX lines?
I'm not at all sure if that would work well, though.
Beverly
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Posted by Kay Lancaster on May 30, 2006, 5:42 am
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> If you buy a multi-size pattern, you'll see several cutting lines at
> the edge of each pattern piece. In order to grade *up* from the
> largest size, you have to add an additional 1/4" (or more) *for each
> additional size* at each of the places where the lines diverge. I
The problem with this is the standard grading scheme gets really squirrelly
when pushed well into the plus size range -- the assumptions made are that
shoulders get longer (hah!), necks get huge, etc. My guess is that only
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girth changes are really needed on 2x ->4x pj patterns, so you could use
the "moving seamline method" to swing the armscye out at the side seams
and add to the side seams, and then split the pants at the grainlines and
add there. You may also need to change the crotch curve.
But let's start with a slightly different question: what is the chest,
waist and hip measurement of the individual who needs the pjs? Pattern
sizes are not the same as RTW sizes (and a RTW size of one maker isn't the
same as the RTW size of another maker), so you need to pick patterns by the
measurement tables given in the catalogs. Simplicity used to have the
largest men's patterns available, and imho, they weren't very good. Don't
know what their current offerings are like. KwikSew had some of the best
large men's patterns, but I think they stop at a 52" chest. Connie Crawford
has the largest patterns out there, and I think the nursing scrubs could
be remodeled successfully into men's pjs, though they are nominally a women's
pattern:
http://www.fashionpatterns.com/patterns/patterns_blouses_u8101.html
There are some computerized pattern drafting programs out there -- Click and
Sew might be an entry level, though I have not used it (I drape or draft my
own patterns.)
Can you show us the style of pjs you're looking for? Maybe we can make
some better suggestions, then.
Kay
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Posted by BEI Design on May 30, 2006, 3:02 pm
Kay Lancaster wrote:
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> > If you buy a multi-size pattern, you'll see several cutting
> > lines at
> > the edge of each pattern piece. In order to grade *up* from
> > the
> > largest size, you have to add an additional 1/4" (or more)
> > *for each additional size* at each of the places where the
> > lines diverge. I
> The problem with this is the standard grading scheme gets really
> squirrelly when pushed well into the plus size range -- the
> assumptions made are that shoulders get longer (hah!), necks get
> huge, etc. My guess is that only girth changes are really
> needed on 2x ->4x pj patterns, so you could use
> the "moving seamline method" to swing the armscye out at the
> side seams
> and add to the side seams, and then split the pants at the
> grainlines and add there. You may also need to change the
> crotch curve.
> But let's start with a slightly different question: what is the
> chest,
> waist and hip measurement of the individual who needs the pjs?
> Pattern sizes are not the same as RTW sizes (and a RTW size of
> one maker isn't the same as the RTW size of another maker), so
> you need to pick patterns by the measurement tables given in the
> catalogs. Simplicity used to have the largest men's patterns
> available, and imho, they weren't very good. Don't know what
> their current offerings are like. KwikSew had some of the best
> large men's patterns, but I think they stop at a 52" chest.
> Connie Crawford has the largest patterns out there, and I think
> the nursing scrubs could
> be remodeled successfully into men's pjs, though they are
> nominally a women's pattern:
> http://www.fashionpatterns.com/patterns/patterns_blouses_u8101.html
> There are some computerized pattern drafting programs out there
> -- Click and Sew might be an entry level, though I have not used
> it (I drape or draft my own patterns.)
> Can you show us the style of pjs you're looking for? Maybe we
> can make
> some better suggestions, then.
Kay, I agree, adding at *all* the seams would not be the best
technique. However, OP stated that he/she is "new to sewing", and I
was trying to offer a solution for a limited skill level. I really
think pattern grading is more of an advanced process. Since I did not
locate any XXXX patterns, I thought maybe the duplicate pattern idea
might work. It appears he/she did locate a scrubs pattern, though.
Beverly
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> I'm looking for pajama patterns in men's 4x. Can someone point out
> a
> source to me?