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Posted by willi on November 6, 2006, 5:49 pm
Hi everyone
I'm new to socks! This is only the second pair I have made. If it helps
I am using a pattern on page 118 of Susan Melville's ? 'The Knitting
Experience'
I am making a pair for my husband and wanted to increase the number of
stitches for the heel flap because he has quite a wide heel. However,
when I get to the turning of the heel and working the short rows, I am
unsure of what the logic is as to how many stitches to knit before I
turn and how that number relates to the subsequent stitches to do
before turning. The existing pattern says, utilizing 60 sts (30 for
heel flap) says:
Short Row 1 (RS) Sl 1 p-wise, k15 (16, 18, 19, 20), work left slanting
decrease 6 (7,7,8,9) sts now on left hand needle. Turn. (so I
previously used 19 for my first socks)
Short Row 2 Sl1 p-wise, P8 (8,10,10,10), work left slanting decrease
(p2tog,) 6 (7,7,8,9) sts now on left hand need. Turn. (so I used 10)
So, after all that...my question is...if I increase the heel flap to 32
stitches...what is the logic for adjusting the number of stitches
before turns for the short rows?
Clear as mud?
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Posted by WoolyGooly on November 6, 2006, 6:16 pm
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>I am making a pair for my husband and wanted to increase the number of
>stitches for the heel flap because he has quite a wide heel. However,
>when I get to the turning of the heel and working the short rows, I am
>unsure of what the logic is as to how many stitches to knit before I
>turn and how that number relates to the subsequent stitches to do
>before turning. The existing pattern says, utilizing 60 sts (30 for
>heel flap) says:
Does he need a sock of larger diameter, or merely more stitches in the
heel? I usually put 60% of stitches in the heel when I make a short
row-heeled sock and it fits me well: I have a narrow heel and a wide
instep. If your DH needs Just Bigger Socks then you should do a
little math to res`ize the sock for his foot. You may then discover
that the problem isn't the heel at all but the overall size. Unless
you're working with worsted-weight yarn I don't see a 60-stitch sock
fitting anybody with a foot much bigger than a women's 8.5-9.
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Posted by willi on November 6, 2006, 7:03 pm
hmmm...now you have brought up some other points that I have wondered
about...perhaps another post...lol...but, to stick to this issue...I
just want the heel to be wider...the first pair seemed to fit fine
except I felt the heel was too narrow. If you use 60% of stitches in
the heel, what formula do you use for the length of the first and
subsequent short rows.
Thanks!!!
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> >I am making a pair for my husband and wanted to increase the number of
> >stitches for the heel flap because he has quite a wide heel. However,
> >when I get to the turning of the heel and working the short rows, I am
> >unsure of what the logic is as to how many stitches to knit before I
> >turn and how that number relates to the subsequent stitches to do
> >before turning. The existing pattern says, utilizing 60 sts (30 for
> >heel flap) says:Does he need a sock of larger diameter, or merely more
stitches in the
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> heel? I usually put 60% of stitches in the heel when I make a short
> row-heeled sock and it fits me well: I have a narrow heel and a wide
> instep. If your DH needs Just Bigger Socks then you should do a
> little math to res`ize the sock for his foot. You may then discover
> that the problem isn't the heel at all but the overall size. Unless
> you're working with worsted-weight yarn I don't see a 60-stitch sock
> fitting anybody with a foot much bigger than a women's 8.5-9.
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Posted by willi on November 6, 2006, 7:25 pm
So as I sat thinking about your post...I realized that it was not the
width of the heel flap that was my problem it was the 'length' of the
short rows...as the 'bump' generated by the short rows was a little
narrow. This says to me that my problem isn't the heel flap, but, that
it would be solved if I used say 11 or 12 stitches in the short rows
themselves before the turn...right?
Thanks again!
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> hmmm...now you have brought up some other points that I have wondered
> about...perhaps another post...lol...but, to stick to this issue...I
> just want the heel to be wider...the first pair seemed to fit fine
> except I felt the heel was too narrow. If you use 60% of stitches in
> the heel, what formula do you use for the length of the first and
> subsequent short rows.
> Thanks!!!
> > >I am making a pair for my husband and wanted to increase the number of
> > >stitches for the heel flap because he has quite a wide heel. However,
> > >when I get to the turning of the heel and working the short rows, I am
> > >unsure of what the logic is as to how many stitches to knit before I
> > >turn and how that number relates to the subsequent stitches to do
> > >before turning. The existing pattern says, utilizing 60 sts (30 for
> > >heel flap) says:Does he need a sock of larger diameter, or merely more
stitches in the
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> > heel? I usually put 60% of stitches in the heel when I make a short
> > row-heeled sock and it fits me well: I have a narrow heel and a wide
> > instep. If your DH needs Just Bigger Socks then you should do a
> > little math to res`ize the sock for his foot. You may then discover
> > that the problem isn't the heel at all but the overall size. Unless
> > you're working with worsted-weight yarn I don't see a 60-stitch sock
> > fitting anybody with a foot much bigger than a women's 8.5-9.
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Posted by WoolyGooly on November 6, 2006, 7:43 pm
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>So as I sat thinking about your post...I realized that it was not the
>width of the heel flap that was my problem it was the 'length' of the
>short rows...as the 'bump' generated by the short rows was a little
>narrow. This says to me that my problem isn't the heel flap, but, that
>it would be solved if I used say 11 or 12 stitches in the short rows
>themselves before the turn...right?
You make a short row heel the same way every time, regardless of the
number of stitches in it. Work across to the last stitch in the heel,
wrap it, turn, work back to the first stitch, wrap it, turn, ad naus
until you've worked down to 20% of stitches (or 1/3 of the heel) left
unwrapped, then start working your way back up.
But really, what sort of yarn and what gauge are you working at to
make those socks? Because I *really* have trouble believing a
60-stitch sock fits anybody who wears a shoe bigger than mine (women's
10), which describes a good portion of the male species :D
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>stitches for the heel flap because he has quite a wide heel. However,
>when I get to the turning of the heel and working the short rows, I am
>unsure of what the logic is as to how many stitches to knit before I
>turn and how that number relates to the subsequent stitches to do
>before turning. The existing pattern says, utilizing 60 sts (30 for
>heel flap) says: