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Posted by sueimpe on January 21, 2008, 6:10 pm
I'm new at this (duh), and I'm trying a simple cable on an afghan. Simple
pattern, only 10 rows. Here goes.
Rows 1,3 and 5: knit (I can do that!)
Rows 2 and 4:P3, k2, *p5, k2; rep from * across, end last rep p3 (I can do
that too!)
Rows 6 and 8: [K2,sl 1] twice, *k3, sl 1, k2, sl 1;rep from * across, end
last rep k2. ( I can even do this, no prob)
Row 7: P2, sl 1, k2
WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After the
purl, or after the slip?
then it goes on:sl 1, *p3, sl 1, k2, sl1; rep from * across, end last
rep p2.
Here comes the tiny cable
Row 9:K2, {cross 4(C4)}sl 1 to cn, hold in front, k 3rd stitch on LH
needle, k first and 2nd sts, k1 from cn.
HUH??? How the heck do I knit the 3rd stitch, then the 1st and second?
then it goes on *k3, c4;rep from * across, end last rep k2.
Row 10: repeat Row 2.
It's a really pretty pattern called Celtic Tradition by Joyce Englund,
who, OF COURSE doesn't have a website for idiot questions like mine.
Thanks, I hope!!!
Sue
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Posted by on January 21, 2008, 11:44 pm
On Jan 22, 1:10=A0am, sbimperiale_at_comcast_dot_...@foo.com (sueimpe)
wrote:
> I'm new at this (duh), and I'm trying a simple cable on an afghan. Simple
> pattern, only 10 rows. Here goes.
>
> Rows 1,3 and 5: knit (I can do that!)
> Rows 2 and 4:P3, k2, *p5, k2; rep from * across, end last rep p3 (I can do=
> that too!)
> Rows 6 and 8: [K2,sl 1] twice, *k3, sl 1, k2, sl 1;rep from * across, end
> last rep k2. ( I can even do this, no prob)
> Row 7: P2, sl 1, k2
>
> WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After the
> purl, or after the slip?
>
> =A0 =A0then it goes on:sl 1, *p3, sl 1, k2, sl1; rep from * across, end la=
st
> rep p2.
>
> Here comes the tiny cable
> Row 9:K2, {cross 4(C4)}sl 1 to cn, hold in front, k 3rd stitch on LH
> needle, k first and 2nd sts, k1 from cn.
> HUH??? How the heck do I knit the 3rd stitch, then the 1st and second? =A0=
> =A0 =A0then it goes on *k3, c4;rep from * across, end last rep k2.
>
> Row 10: repeat Row 2.
>
> It's a really pretty pattern called Celtic Tradition by Joyce Englund,
> who, OF COURSE doesn't have a website for idiot questions like mine.
>
> Thanks, I hope!!!
> Sue
>
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My first puzzelement when nreading this pattern is why have a sl[ip]
st on both sides ? rows 6 & 8 as well as 7 ,,
Are the cables on both sides or only as the conventional Purl Back
ground ??? `bringing back =3D mooving the thread to back or front of
knitting depends on the purl or knit it`s needed for , but doing it
before or after the Slipped st depends on the pattern ? Where is the
Slipped st in row 8 needed ? slip 2 before k2 might be used to throw
the slipped one over the 2 [either as 2 singles or sometines as 2 knit
together to decrease st ,
How do you knit the third st? hold the 1st and 2nd with your fingers
and push needle into third knit AND DON~T PULL the former st off the
left needle , leave it there and knit the other 2 as instructed , Not
pulling the former st off the left needle until you knitted all 3
mirjam
ps it might help if you leave your knitting aside for some minutes and
make yourself a little sample with all kinds of cables ,,,, to
practice ,,,,,,a little ,,,
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Posted by on January 22, 2008, 12:00 am
On Jan 22, 6:44=A0am, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> On Jan 22, 1:10=A0am, sbimperiale_at_comcast_dot_...@foo.com (sueimpe)
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm new at this (duh), and I'm trying a simple cable on an afghan. Simpl=
e
> > pattern, only 10 rows. Here goes.
>
> > Rows 1,3 and 5: knit (I can do that!)
> > Rows 2 and 4:P3, k2, *p5, k2; rep from * across, end last rep p3 (I can =
do
> > that too!)
> > Rows 6 and 8: [K2,sl 1] twice, *k3, sl 1, k2, sl 1;rep from * across, en=
d
> > last rep k2. ( I can even do this, no prob)
> > Row 7: P2, sl 1, k2
>
> > WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After the=
> > purl, or after the slip?
>
> > =A0 =A0then it goes on:sl 1, *p3, sl 1, k2, sl1; rep from * across, end =
last
> > rep p2.
>
> > Here comes the tiny cable
> > Row 9:K2, {cross 4(C4)}sl 1 to cn, hold in front, k 3rd stitch on LH
> > needle, k first and 2nd sts, k1 from cn.
> > HUH??? How the heck do I knit the 3rd stitch, then the 1st and second? =
=A0
> > =A0 =A0then it goes on *k3, c4;rep from * across, end last rep k2.
>
> > Row 10: repeat Row 2.
>
> > It's a really pretty pattern called Celtic Tradition by Joyce Englund,
> > who, OF COURSE doesn't have a website for idiot questions like mine.
>
> > Thanks, I hope!!!
> > Sue
>
> > -------------------------------------
>
> > ##-----------------------------------------------##
> > Delivered via =A0http://www.sewgirls.com/
> > Sewing Community of the Net
> > Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup -
> > rec.crafts.textiles.yarn - 16893 messages and counting!
> > ##-----------------------------------------------##
>
> My first puzzelement when nreading this pattern is why have a sl[ip]
> st on =A0both sides ? rows =A06 & 8 as well as 7 ,,
> Are the cables on both sides or only as the conventional Purl Back
> ground ??? =A0`bringing back =3D mooving the thread to back or front of
> knitting depends on the purl or knit it`s needed for , but doing it
> before or after the Slipped st depends on the pattern ? Where is the
> Slipped st in row 8 needed ? =A0slip 2 before k2 might be used to throw
> the slipped one over the 2 [either as 2 singles or sometines as 2 knit
> together to decrease st ,
> How do you knit the third st? hold the 1st and 2nd with your fingers
> and push needle into third knit AND DON~T PULL the former st off the
> left needle , leave it there and knit the other 2 as instructed , Not
> pulling the former st off the left needle until you knitted all 3
> mirjam
> ps it might help if you leave your knitting aside for some minutes and
> make yourself a little sample with all kinds of cables ,,,, to
> practice ,,,,,,a little ,,,- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
PS interwave Knits of Fall 2007 has a whole chapter about Exp[loring
Cables ,,,
mirjam
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Posted by Richard Eney on January 22, 2008, 12:26 am
>On Jan 22, 6:44 am, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
>> sbimperiale_at_comcast_dot_...@foo.com (sueimpe) wrote:
>>
>> > I'm new at this (duh), and I'm trying a simple cable on an afghan. Simple
>> > pattern, only 10 rows. Here goes.
Not so simple, with the tiny cable.
>> > Rows 1,3 and 5: knit (I can do that!)
>> > Rows 2 and 4:P3, k2, *p5, k2; rep from * across, end last rep p3 (I can do
>> > that too!)
>> > Rows 6 and 8: [K2,sl 1] twice, *k3, sl 1, k2, sl 1;rep from * across, end
>> > last rep k2. ( I can even do this, no prob)
>> > Row 7: P2, sl 1, k2
>>
>> > WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After the
>> > purl, or after the slip?
What mirjam said: swatch and decide what you like the looks of.
Personally, I'd bring the yarn back for the knit before the slip.
>> > then it goes on:sl 1, *p3, sl 1, k2, sl1; rep from * across, end last
>> > rep p2.
>>
>> > Here comes the tiny cable
>> > Row 9:K2, {cross 4(C4)}sl 1 to cn, hold in front, k 3rd stitch on LH
>> > needle, k first and 2nd sts, k1 from cn.
>> > HUH??? How the heck do I knit the 3rd stitch, then the 1st and second?
>> > then it goes on *k3, c4;rep from * across, end last rep k2.
Mirjam told you how.
Here's why:
What you're doing is taking a group of four stitches to make a two-stitch cable
that is stretched across two ordinary stitches.
You're crossing stitch 1 and stitch 4, with
stitches 2 and 3 done normally in the middle.
Think of it as using two cable needles:
Use a cable needle to take stitch 1 off and hold it in front.
Then use a cable needle to take stitches 2 and 3 (in their ordinary order)
off and hold it to the back.
Then knit stitch 4.
Then knit stitches 2 and 3 off the cable needle in back.
Then knit stitch 1 off the cable needle in front.
Knitting stitch 4 with the other two still on the needle is a little fiddly
but probably easier and faster than handling two cable needles at once.
=Tamar
>> > Row 10: repeat Row 2.
>> My first puzzelement when reading this pattern is why have a sl[ip]
>> st on both sides ? rows 6 & 8 as well as 7
>> Are the cables on both sides or only as the conventional Purl Back
>> ground ??? `bringing back = moving the thread to back or front of
>> knitting depends on the purl or knit it`s needed for , but doing it
>> before or after the Slipped st depends on the pattern ? Where is the
>> Slipped st in row 8 needed ? slip 2 before k2 might be used to throw
>> the slipped one over the 2 [either as 2 singles or sometines as 2 knit
>> together to decrease st ,
>> How do you knit the third st? hold the 1st and 2nd with your fingers
>> and push needle into third knit AND DON~T PULL the former st off the
>> left needle , leave it there and knit the other 2 as instructed , Not
>> pulling the former st off the left needle until you knitted all 3
>> mirjam
>> ps it might help if you leave your knitting aside for some minutes and
>> make yourself a little sample with all kinds of cables ,,,, to
>> practice ,,,,,,a little ,,,
>
>PS interwave Knits of Fall 2007 has a whole chapter about Exp[loring
>Cables ,,,
>mirjam
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Posted by on January 22, 2008, 1:47 am
On Jan 22, 7:26=A0am, dicc...@radix.net (Richard Eney) wrote:
> In article <7135d8e5-80e9-475b-ba14-627fca317...@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.c=
om>,
>
> >On Jan 22, 6:44=A0am, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> >> sbimperiale_at_comcast_dot_...@foo.com (sueimpe) wrote:
>
> >> > I'm new at this (duh), and I'm trying a simple cable on an afghan. Si=
mple
> >> > pattern, only 10 rows. Here goes.
>
> Not so simple, with the tiny cable.
>
> >> > Rows 1,3 and 5: knit (I can do that!)
> >> > Rows 2 and 4:P3, k2, *p5, k2; rep from * across, end last rep p3 (I c=
an do
> >> > that too!)
> >> > Rows 6 and 8: [K2,sl 1] twice, *k3, sl 1, k2, sl 1;rep from * across,=
end
> >> > last rep k2. ( I can even do this, no prob)
> >> > Row 7: P2, sl 1, k2
>
> >> > WAIT!! When do I bring the yarn back for the next knit stitch? After =
the
> >> > purl, or after the slip?
>
> What mirjam said: swatch and decide what you like the looks of.
> Personally, I'd bring the yarn back for the knit before the slip.
>
> >> > =A0=A0then it goes on:sl 1, *p3, sl 1, k2, sl1; rep from * across, en=
d last
> >> > rep p2.
>
> >> > Here comes the tiny cable
> >> > Row 9:K2, {cross 4(C4)}sl 1 to cn, hold in front, k 3rd stitch on LH
> >> > needle, k first and 2nd sts, k1 from cn.
> >> > HUH??? How the heck do I knit the 3rd stitch, then the 1st and second=
? =A0
> >> > =A0 =A0then it goes on *k3, c4;rep from * across, end last rep k2.
>
> Mirjam told you how.
> Here's why:
> What you're doing is taking a group of four stitches to make a two-stitch =
cable
> that is stretched across two ordinary stitches.
>
> You're crossing stitch 1 and stitch 4, with
> stitches 2 and 3 done normally in the middle.
>
> Think of it as using two cable needles:
> Use a cable needle to take stitch 1 off and hold it in front.
> Then use a cable needle to take stitches 2 and 3 (in their ordinary order)=
> off and hold it to the back.
> Then knit stitch 4.
> Then knit stitches 2 and 3 off the cable needle in back.
> Then knit stitch 1 off the cable needle in front.
>
> Knitting stitch 4 with the other two still on the needle is a little fiddl=
y
> but probably easier and faster than handling two cable needles at once.
>
> =3DTamar
>
>
>
> >> > Row 10: repeat Row 2.
> >> My first puzzelement when reading this pattern is why have a sl[ip]
> >> st on =A0both sides ? rows =A06 & 8 as well as 7
> >> Are the cables on both sides or only as the conventional Purl Back
> >> ground ??? =A0`bringing back =3D moving the thread to back or front of
> >> knitting depends on the purl or knit it`s needed for , but doing it
> >> before or after the Slipped st depends on the pattern ? Where is the
> >> Slipped st in row 8 needed ? =A0slip 2 before k2 might be used to throw=
> >> the slipped one over the 2 [either as 2 singles or sometines as 2 knit
> >> together to decrease st ,
> >> How do you knit the third st? hold the 1st and 2nd with your fingers
> >> and push needle into third knit AND DON~T PULL the former st off the
> >> left needle , leave it there and knit the other 2 as instructed , Not
> >> pulling the former st off the left needle until you knitted all 3
> >> mirjam
> >> ps it might help if you leave your knitting aside for some minutes and
> >> make yourself a little sample with all kinds of cables ,,,, to
> >> practice ,,,,,,a little ,,,
>
> >PS interwave Knits of =A0Fall 2007 has a whole chapter about =A0Exp[lorin=
g
> >Cables ,,,
> >mirjam- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Professor Knitcus Tamar gave you Loads of Expert , Gold worthy
advice ,,,
Pleae take some time off and swatch , it will save you hours of
Sorrow .
EVen we experts [ see Argh posts] do make mistakes ,,,,
Starts a swatch from this wool , and than with each new knitted items
make a swatch ,,, keep them !!!!! after some times you will have a
wonderful collection of swatches which you could make into a very
personal `memory` afghan or vest ,, of your own knitted
articles ,,,,,
mirjajm
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