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Posted by B Vaugha on September 6, 2007, 5:57 am
I've just started trying to do Irish crochet, after thinking about it
for several years. (Until recently, I was too busy to do any
crocheting.)
I'm using a size 16 thread and a 0.75 mm hook. These are both larger
than is usually used for Irish crochet, but they feel very tiny and
all ten of my fingers feel like thumbs. Once I get used to working
with this size, I'll try to use an even finer thread. In Irish
crochet, threads as fine as size 50 are normally used.
For those of you who don't know Irish crochet, it is intended to look
like lace, but is rather free form. You make various motifs with very
fine thread, often working over one or more lengths of thicker thread
to give a three-dimensional aspect to the motifs. The motifs tend to
be flowers, vines, leaves (including shamrocks, of course), and
scrolls. When you have enough of these motifs to form a desing, you
then make a long chain to serve as the outline of the final piece, and
baste this chain to a piece of paper or firm fabric in the shape you
want. Then you baste all of the motifs inside the frame you've just
made, and fill in the gaps with one of several special stitches that
are usually composed of chain stitch and picots or knots. When it's
finished, you cut the basting threads to free the piece from the paper
backing.
I've decided to make some bookmarks to learn some of the stitches and
techniques. It seems to me that the hook I'm using isn't really ideal
for this kind of work. The thread tends to slip off it while I'm
trying to pull it through. Does anyone have a recommendation for a
good brand of steel hook for very fine work?
I'm also having a little trouble working over the padding cord, but I
think that's getting easier.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero dot it.
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Posted by Jan on September 6, 2007, 5:35 pm
Barbara, my fine steel hooks are mostly Boyes but they are quite old and I
haven't used them for several years so I hesitate to recommend them. The
range of sizes is from 0 to 11 and not marked with mm sizes but the smallest
(size 11) appears to be about 1 mm in diameter. I have used crochet threads
in sizes 10, 20 and 30 and possibly others. Assuming your size 16 is
between the 10 and 20 I've used, then it seems to me that a .75 mm hook
would be too small for the size 16. I've never done any Irish crochet but
it sounds fascinating.
--
Jan in MN
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> I've just started trying to do Irish crochet, after thinking about it
> for several years. (Until recently, I was too busy to do any
> crocheting.)
> I'm using a size 16 thread and a 0.75 mm hook. These are both larger
> than is usually used for Irish crochet, but they feel very tiny and
> all ten of my fingers feel like thumbs. Once I get used to working
> with this size, I'll try to use an even finer thread. In Irish
> crochet, threads as fine as size 50 are normally used.
> For those of you who don't know Irish crochet, it is intended to look
> like lace, but is rather free form. You make various motifs with very
> fine thread, often working over one or more lengths of thicker thread
> to give a three-dimensional aspect to the motifs. The motifs tend to
> be flowers, vines, leaves (including shamrocks, of course), and
> scrolls. When you have enough of these motifs to form a desing, you
> then make a long chain to serve as the outline of the final piece, and
> baste this chain to a piece of paper or firm fabric in the shape you
> want. Then you baste all of the motifs inside the frame you've just
> made, and fill in the gaps with one of several special stitches that
> are usually composed of chain stitch and picots or knots. When it's
> finished, you cut the basting threads to free the piece from the paper
> backing.
> I've decided to make some bookmarks to learn some of the stitches and
> techniques. It seems to me that the hook I'm using isn't really ideal
> for this kind of work. The thread tends to slip off it while I'm
> trying to pull it through. Does anyone have a recommendation for a
> good brand of steel hook for very fine work?
> I'm also having a little trouble working over the padding cord, but I
> think that's getting easier.
> --
> Barbara Vaughan
> My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero
> dot it.
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Posted by Edna on September 7, 2007, 12:14 am
Barbara I belong to a Group called Irish Crochet Lovers, a very quiet group
at present however I am sure someone there will be able to help you.
Also in the files is a pattern for a Flower Basket Motif and more.
Edna in Sydney
http://groups.yahoo.com:80/group/Irish_Crochet_Lovers/
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>> I've just started trying to do Irish crochet, after thinking about it
>> for several years. (Until recently, I was too busy to do any
>> crocheting.)
>> I'm using a size 16 thread and a 0.75 mm hook. These are both larger
>> than is usually used for Irish crochet, but they feel very tiny and
>> all ten of my fingers feel like thumbs. Once I get used to working
>> with this size, I'll try to use an even finer thread. In Irish
>> crochet, threads as fine as size 50 are normally used.
>> For those of you who don't know Irish crochet, it is intended to look
>> like lace, but is rather free form. You make various motifs with very
>> fine thread, often working over one or more lengths of thicker thread
>> to give a three-dimensional aspect to the motifs. The motifs tend to
>> be flowers, vines, leaves (including shamrocks, of course), and
>> scrolls. When you have enough of these motifs to form a desing, you
>> then make a long chain to serve as the outline of the final piece, and
>> baste this chain to a piece of paper or firm fabric in the shape you
>> want. Then you baste all of the motifs inside the frame you've just
>> made, and fill in the gaps with one of several special stitches that
>> are usually composed of chain stitch and picots or knots. When it's
>> finished, you cut the basting threads to free the piece from the paper
>> backing.
>> I've decided to make some bookmarks to learn some of the stitches and
>> techniques. It seems to me that the hook I'm using isn't really ideal
>> for this kind of work. The thread tends to slip off it while I'm
>> trying to pull it through. Does anyone have a recommendation for a
>> good brand of steel hook for very fine work?
>> I'm also having a little trouble working over the padding cord, but I
>> think that's getting easier.
>> --
>> Barbara Vaughan
>> My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero
>> dot it.
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Posted by B Vaugha on September 7, 2007, 11:50 am
wrote:
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>Barbara I belong to a Group called Irish Crochet Lovers, a very quiet group
>at present however I am sure someone there will be able to help you.
>Also in the files is a pattern for a Flower Basket Motif and more.
Thank you, Edna, I've subscribed.
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>Edna in Sydney
>http://groups.yahoo.com:80/group/Irish_Crochet_Lovers/
>>> I've just started trying to do Irish crochet, after thinking about it
>>> for several years. (Until recently, I was too busy to do any
>>> crocheting.)
>>> I'm using a size 16 thread and a 0.75 mm hook. These are both larger
>>> than is usually used for Irish crochet, but they feel very tiny and
>>> all ten of my fingers feel like thumbs. Once I get used to working
>>> with this size, I'll try to use an even finer thread. In Irish
>>> crochet, threads as fine as size 50 are normally used.
>>> For those of you who don't know Irish crochet, it is intended to look
>>> like lace, but is rather free form. You make various motifs with very
>>> fine thread, often working over one or more lengths of thicker thread
>>> to give a three-dimensional aspect to the motifs. The motifs tend to
>>> be flowers, vines, leaves (including shamrocks, of course), and
>>> scrolls. When you have enough of these motifs to form a desing, you
>>> then make a long chain to serve as the outline of the final piece, and
>>> baste this chain to a piece of paper or firm fabric in the shape you
>>> want. Then you baste all of the motifs inside the frame you've just
>>> made, and fill in the gaps with one of several special stitches that
>>> are usually composed of chain stitch and picots or knots. When it's
>>> finished, you cut the basting threads to free the piece from the paper
>>> backing.
>>> I've decided to make some bookmarks to learn some of the stitches and
>>> techniques. It seems to me that the hook I'm using isn't really ideal
>>> for this kind of work. The thread tends to slip off it while I'm
>>> trying to pull it through. Does anyone have a recommendation for a
>>> good brand of steel hook for very fine work?
>>> I'm also having a little trouble working over the padding cord, but I
>>> think that's getting easier.
>>> --
>>> Barbara Vaughan
>>> My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero
>>> dot it.
>>
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero dot it.
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Posted by B Vaugha on September 7, 2007, 11:50 am
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>Barbara, my fine steel hooks are mostly Boyes but they are quite old and I
>haven't used them for several years so I hesitate to recommend them. The
>range of sizes is from 0 to 11 and not marked with mm sizes but the smallest
>(size 11) appears to be about 1 mm in diameter. I have used crochet threads
>in sizes 10, 20 and 30 and possibly others. Assuming your size 16 is
>between the 10 and 20 I've used, then it seems to me that a .75 mm hook
>would be too small for the size 16. I've never done any Irish crochet but
>it sounds fascinating.
The size 16 thread recommended size 1 mm but I tried both and liked
the result with 0.75 better. Irish crochet is supposed to be worked
rather tight. However, I do think that part of my problem is that the
hook part of the hook (if you know what I mean) is too small. I used
to have a wonderful old steel hook that was very fine but had a
decent- sized hook. Unfortunately I lost it on a trip.
I'm not familiar with the US hook sizes, but I think I need something
smaller than your size 11. I've seen smaller sizes on the internet,
but I don't want to spring for a set unless I've had some
recommendation on a good brand. I take it you like the Boyes brand.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero dot it.
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> for several years. (Until recently, I was too busy to do any
> crocheting.)
> I'm using a size 16 thread and a 0.75 mm hook. These are both larger
> than is usually used for Irish crochet, but they feel very tiny and
> all ten of my fingers feel like thumbs. Once I get used to working
> with this size, I'll try to use an even finer thread. In Irish
> crochet, threads as fine as size 50 are normally used.
> For those of you who don't know Irish crochet, it is intended to look
> like lace, but is rather free form. You make various motifs with very
> fine thread, often working over one or more lengths of thicker thread
> to give a three-dimensional aspect to the motifs. The motifs tend to
> be flowers, vines, leaves (including shamrocks, of course), and
> scrolls. When you have enough of these motifs to form a desing, you
> then make a long chain to serve as the outline of the final piece, and
> baste this chain to a piece of paper or firm fabric in the shape you
> want. Then you baste all of the motifs inside the frame you've just
> made, and fill in the gaps with one of several special stitches that
> are usually composed of chain stitch and picots or knots. When it's
> finished, you cut the basting threads to free the piece from the paper
> backing.
> I've decided to make some bookmarks to learn some of the stitches and
> techniques. It seems to me that the hook I'm using isn't really ideal
> for this kind of work. The thread tends to slip off it while I'm
> trying to pull it through. Does anyone have a recommendation for a
> good brand of steel hook for very fine work?
> I'm also having a little trouble working over the padding cord, but I
> think that's getting easier.
> --
> Barbara Vaughan
> My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero
> dot it.