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Posted by on May 21, 2008, 7:20 am
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> > Mary
> > Do some research. =A0Mirjam and I as well as quite a few others here who=
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> > really INTO renaisance times HAVE done the research, and know what of we=
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> > speak.
> > Noreen
> > who knows you just have a vendetta against Mirjam, and will fight YOU
> > every
> > step of the way. =A0SHE belongs, =A0your ATTITUDE doesn't.
> Ahem. You seem to have a vendetta against me, I don't against anyone :-)
> And I do know quite a lot about armour; although I don't make it and we
> don't wear it (we're 100% non-combatant in role as well as in real life)
> many of my friends and fellow traders do. We're not 'into' rennaissance
> activities, we practise earlier skills. My husband is a metallurgist and
> takes a keen interest in such things. He's a very practical man (he does
> most of the mediaeval textiles in this house). I asked him about this matt=
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> yesterday evening, he said wire could be twisted into something resembling=
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> pan scrub but it wouldn't be n=E5hlbindning - which needs a needle.
> You really shouldn't assume that others have no experience or historical
> knowledge.
> Next time I go to the Royal Armouries Museum (within walking distance of
> home) I'll ask the Curator of Armour (who we know because we've been
> involved with the Armouries since before it came to the city, we were
> invited to the Queen's opening) - but shan't bother putting his answers he=
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> because I suspect that they wouldn't be believed.
> Mary
Why Do YOU assume we wouldn`t believe your Aquaintance`s answers.
As a matter of habit, i always assume that people tell what they
really know, and
that i should respect their words as such. I am also open to the idea,
that in different places, people used different methods to make
armours. If you haven`t seen the kind i saw, and i haven`t [ i have in
reality but i am now giving a Hypothetical example] seen the kind you
saw , we might think that what we saw is the only kind. But this isn`t
how it is , I have over the years seen at least 3 different technics
made Armors, [maybe 4???] . I only saw them in digs [quite dirty] , or
in museum, not in reconstructed copies...
I believe you, that your husband is quite capable of doing many
objects, but there still exist some techniques in which other people
excell, and maybe your husband hasn`t met those. Nothing wrong with
that ,,, I knit , weave, crochet, sew, embroider etc,, i don`t make
macrame ,,,,,,,,, Does this make Macrame non existant ????
Ps i naaldbound with a bone, and with a stick , and with a clothpin.
i have seen and touched a naaldbound Toesock from Metzada [more than
2000 years old].
each of us, your curator friend, your husband you and me=3D, have seen
DIFFERENT things, and are better acknowledged with the things we
saw...
mirjam
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Posted by on May 21, 2008, 7:32 am
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> Ahem. You seem to have a vendetta against me, I don't against anyone :-)
I don`t know if you have a vendetta, but it sure feels to me that you
have a kick out of opposing everything i say.
You even had the Unbelievable idea, of suggesting to me in your
private letter that i ahouldn`t open your letters, because you have my
good in your heart...
You even posted here , a very offensive post against me and my
culture.
And now you wonder why some people feel you have something against
me?
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> You really shouldn't assume that others have no experience or historical
> knowledge.
Both in other things as in that Horrid question you showed everybody
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here what parts of history you `preffer`. >
> Next time I go to the Royal Armouries Museum (within walking distance of
> home) I'll ask the Curator of Armour (who we know because we've been
> involved with the Armouries since before it came to the city, we were
> invited to the Queen's opening) - but shan't bother putting his answers here
> because I suspect that they wouldn't be believed.
Knowledge isn`t a matter of belief ...
mirjam
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> Mary
Ps it is YOU mary who constantly Hint that others know Less than you ,
i keep saying that others know DIfferent things,,,
You remind me of the 10 blind men who walk in a line and meet an
elephant,, one says the elephant has a tiny tail, one says it has big
feet , one says it has a big TOE ,,,,,
My elephant has all the parts even some parts i never saw ,,, your
elephant seems to have only one part , the part that you can touch.
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Posted by Chris Underwood on May 21, 2008, 1:59 pm
Now I remember why I quit reading this newsgroup for a few years...
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Posted by Bernadette on May 21, 2008, 2:48 pm
On Wed, 21 May 2008 17:59:28 +0000, Chris Underwood wrote:
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> Now I remember why I quit reading this newsgroup for a few years...
That doesn't surprise me at all Chris and is something I considered the
last time this sort of nonsense started. How on earth we expect to have
any kind of peace elsewhere when we can't even have it on a small sewing
group is beyond me!
It seems as though the word tolerance is meaningless.
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Bernadette
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Posted by on May 21, 2008, 5:08 pm
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> On Wed, 21 May 2008 17:59:28 +0000, Chris Underwood wrote:
> > Now I remember why I quit reading this newsgroup for a few years...
> That doesn't surprise me at all Chris and is something I considered the
> last time this sort of nonsense started. How on earth we expect to have
> any kind of peace elsewhere when we can't even have it on a small sewing
> group is beyond me!
> It seems as though the word tolerance is meaningless.
> --
> Bernadette
Bernadette as you know i enjoy writing and sharing many knitting
crocheting weaving and art things,
This doesn`t mean that any person has the right to say racial/ or
religious things about me,
i didn`t start jumping on that person , she does and i try to avoid
it ,, but there are limits.
mirjam
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