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Posted by Richard Eney on May 20, 2008, 12:47 am
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>> >> We went to an opening of Archeological finds in Shikmona
>> > and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s
>> >> knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ......
>> > I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which
>> > WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. Looks like it was knitted in black
>> > then highlighted with silver somehow? I haven't been able to find any
>> > information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the
>> > movie!
>> It can be knitted in dishcloth cotton then sprayed silver.
>> Real mail is made from iron rings riveted together.
>Thank you Mary , most people by now are aware of this `Image of
>knitting`
>Some of the armors are indeed made by many rings connected , and ome
>are made by a kind of knotted method or a kind of naaldbinding.
Are there any pictures online or websites about the knotted armors?
I know there is one simple headdress that is nalbinding in gold wire
but I hadn't heard of armor done that way.
=Tamar
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Posted by on May 20, 2008, 3:10 am
On May 20, 7:47=A0am, dicc...@radix.net (Richard Eney) wrote:
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> In article <25d845c5-4ec9-4bbd-8dc2-1f3901dc6...@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.c=
om>,
> >> >> We went to an opening of Archeological finds in =A0Shikmona
> >> > and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s
> >> >> knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ......
> >> > I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - w=
hich
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> >> > WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. =A0Looks like it was knitted in=
black
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> >> > then highlighted with silver somehow? =A0I haven't been able to find =
any
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> >> > information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the=
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> >> > movie!
> >> It can be knitted in dishcloth cotton then sprayed silver.
> >> Real mail is made from iron rings riveted together.
> >Thank you Mary , most people by now are aware of this `Image of
> >knitting`
> >Some of the armors are indeed made by many rings connected , and ome
> >are made by a kind of knotted method or a kind of naaldbinding.
> Are there any pictures online or websites about the knotted armors?
> I know there is one simple headdress that is nalbinding in gold wire
> but I hadn't heard of armor done that way.
> =3DTamar- Hide quoted text -
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Just now i don`t know if i can find a picture, but i know that When we
dug in some Crusader places, we found a rusted falling apart one and
was made with one contineous metal thread, it looked like they looped
it over some kind of stick, and than using a second one made the next
Row , twisting the over row into the under row . Like intelocking
twisting 2 metal springs
on each other ,,,
mirjam
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Posted by Richard Eney on May 27, 2008, 12:44 am
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> dicc...@radix.net (Richard Eney) wrote:
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>> >> >> We went to an opening of Archeological finds in Shikmona
>> >> >> and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s
>> >> >> knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ......
>> >Some of the armors are indeed made by many rings connected , and some
>> >are made by a kind of knotted method or a kind of naaldbinding.
>> Are there any pictures online or websites about the knotted armors?
>> I know there is one simple headdress that is nalbinding in gold wire
>> but I hadn't heard of armor done that way.
>> =Tamar
>Just now i don`t know if i can find a picture, but i know that When we
>dug in some Crusader places, we found a rusted falling apart one and
>was made with one contineous metal thread, it looked like they looped
>it over some kind of stick, and than using a second one made the next
>Row , twisting the over row into the under row . Like intelocking
>twisting 2 metal springs
>on each other ,,,
>mirjam
Was Shikmona the Crusader location? Do they know whether the armor
made that way was European or local? I imagine it would have been
locally made since I haven't heard of it before.
=Tamar
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Posted by on May 27, 2008, 5:52 am
On May 27, 7:44=A0am, dicc...@radix.net (Richard Eney) wrote:
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> In article <50bf7249-0baa-41bf-94d3-c75f574b7...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.c=
om>,
> > dicc...@radix.net (Richard Eney) wrote:
> >> >> >> We went to an opening of Archeological finds in =A0Shikmona
> >> >> >> and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s
> >> >> >> knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ......
> >> >Some of the armors are indeed made by many rings connected , and some
> >> >are made by a kind of knotted method or a kind of naaldbinding.
> >> Are there any pictures online or websites about the knotted armors?
> >> I know there is one simple headdress that is nalbinding in gold wire
> >> but I hadn't heard of armor done that way.
> >> =3DTamar
> >Just now i don`t know if i can find a picture, but i know that When we
> >dug in some Crusader places, we found a rusted falling apart one and
> >was made with one contineous metal thread, it looked like they looped
> >it over some kind of stick, and than using a second one made the next
> >Row , twisting the over row into the under row . Like intelocking
> >twisting 2 metal springs
> >on each other ,,,
> >mirjam
> Was Shikmona the Crusader location? =A0Do they know whether the armor
> made that way was European or local? =A0I imagine it would have been
> locally made since I haven't heard of it before.
> =3DTamar- Hide quoted text -
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Shikmona started in the Late Canaanite ERA [15 th cen BCE] and
findings go up to the early Muslim Era [7th cent CE]. It had an
Egyptian , Pesian , Helenestic Roman etc,,, periods In the Byzantine
Era 4th -7th cent CE and than it was destroyed by the Muslim conquest
[638 CE] Christian travelers went through it and mentionin their
writing , and there are even some Christian burials , but no Strong
hold [ maybe they will find it ] BUt you have to remember that it had
a Crisdaers Castel to the South ATLIT , and a HUGE Crusaders
Settlement in Akko [Acre] , on the noethern side of Haifa Bay ...
The armor i saw belonged to another Exhibition , about PIRATES ,,, in
the same museum .
mirjam
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Posted by Richard Eney on May 27, 2008, 6:51 pm
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>dicc...@radix.net (Richard Eney) wrote:
>> > mirjam wrote
>> >> dicc...@radix.net wrote
>> >> Are there any pictures online or websites about the knotted armors?
This paragraph is the one I'm most curious about.
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>> >Just now i don`t know if i can find a picture, but i know that When we
>> >dug in some Crusader places, we found a rusted falling apart one and
>> >was made with one contineous metal thread, it looked like they looped
>> >it over some kind of stick, and than using a second one made the next
>> >Row , twisting the over row into the under row . Like intelocking
>> >twisting 2 metal springs on each other ,,,
What Crusader places did you dig in where you found a rusted falling apart
piece of armor made with one cotinuous metal thread looped together like
interlocking two metal springs?
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>Shikmona started in the Late Canaanite ERA [15 th cen BCE] and
>findings go up to the early Muslim Era [7th cent CE]. It had an
>Egyptian , Pesian , Helenestic Roman etc,,, periods In the Byzantine
>Era 4th -7th cent CE and than it was destroyed by the Muslim conquest
>[638 CE] Christian travelers went through it and mentionin their
>writing , and there are even some Christian burials , but no Strong
>hold [ maybe they will find it ] BUt you have to remember that it had
>a Crisdaers Castel to the South ATLIT , and a HUGE Crusaders
>Settlement in Akko [Acre] , on the noethern side of Haifa Bay ...
>The armor i saw belonged to another Exhibition , about PIRATES ,,, in
>the same museum .
Do you remember more about the pirate armor - such as how old it was,
where it came from?
=Tamar
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>> > and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s
>> >> knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ......
>> > I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which
>> > WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. Looks like it was knitted in black
>> > then highlighted with silver somehow? I haven't been able to find any
>> > information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the
>> > movie!
>> It can be knitted in dishcloth cotton then sprayed silver.
>> Real mail is made from iron rings riveted together.
>Thank you Mary , most people by now are aware of this `Image of
>knitting`
>Some of the armors are indeed made by many rings connected , and ome
>are made by a kind of knotted method or a kind of naaldbinding.