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OT Happy Anzac Day and happy Liberation Day Anna MCM 04-25-2006
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Posted by YarnWright on May 4, 2006, 4:37 pm

> Today we have our 58 Independence Day and ysterday we had the Memorial
> day for the fallen in wars , war actions and terror acts ,,, thus i on
> an uneast feeling when this above unmeant mistake was done, But
> refrained from writing than.
> People who are lucky to live far away from places were wars or terror
> are hapening , don`t at times remember or valuate the Price it costs
> the OTHER HUMANS , so that the World will be a peacful place.
>
> The AUSTRALIAN Army is well Remembered in Israel , from their part in
> WW1, There are even some songs and poems about it...
>
> Galipoli was a very important Figting zone, that was laid the Borders
> of the `new area` at the times. People migghthave forgottten but many
> of the `Problems ` between the `sides` in the Culture war Going on
> Now, started in fact Before WW1. It might interest you to read up a
> bit on the `division `of powers than ,,, And even more so about
> Bismark , and about the Congress of Berlin 1878 , Where the world was
> ``sliced like a cake ,, Amongst the European `empires` ..
> mirjam
>
Dear friend!
I apologize for missing this when you posted it. Israel's existance is
very important to me, I thank the stars for IT and esp. for YOU.
We must all remember your wise words.
Love,
Noreen


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Posted by MRH on April 26, 2006, 5:08 pm
Thank you for sharing your story with us, CW. It was very interesting! I
had a lump in my throat and a tear in my eye when I read about the
grandfather who shook your hand.

My Dad was in the Royal Canadian Navy during WWII. He didn't speak much
about the war... but what he did say definitely made you realize that very
few (if anyone at all) wanted to be involved in war and killing other
people... but it was a necessity of the times to keep the free world free.
He and most other servicemen (and women) knew that the "enemy" were just as
scared as they were and didn't really want to be doing what they were doing.
Some of the men in the Legion here in my town told stories of when they
happened upon an "enemy" and they were both frightened. The were cautious
because of what they were taught about each other, but they didn't fire upon
each other and instead exchanged smiles and nods and went their own way to
go about what they were heading for to begin with.

Now that you have come out and posted for the first time, I hope you will be
a frequent visitor here. :o)

If you would like to check out what a lot of us look like (if your eyesight
will allow you to view pictures okay), you can check them out at the link
following my signature. I'm not in the RCTY album, but instead I am in my
Family album... but there are plenty of others in the RCTY album. If you
have a picture of yourself that you would like added to the album, just send
it (jpg please) along to me at gemsawriter AT yahoo DOT ca with RCTY Photos
in the subject line and the name you use in the body of the email for me to
add to your picture.

Oh by the way (everyone)... I thought I posted a message about this, but I
guess I either forgot or I'm just not seeing the message... Norma sent me a
more updated picture of she and Wade for the album. :o)
--
Gemini
http://photos.yahoo.com/gemsawriter


> Thanks for the welcome Gemini. I lurk mostly, but rarely
> post. Poor eyesight restricts my use of the computer.
>
> I did not intend to "correct" anyone, just to try to explain
> why ANZAC Day is special to many Australians.
>
> The following is way OT and rather sombre in tone, so please
> feel free not to read further. I would not normally presume
> to post on such a subject here, but this is part of the
> reason why ANZAC Day is so special to me.
>
> When I was still in uniform all the officers from my Base in
> Sydney were assigned schools in our area, where we would
> attend school ANZAC Services in the days leading up to the
> 25th. I was given the name of a school and told that it was
> normal to prepare a short address about the landing at Anzac
> Cove and it's significance to Australia as a nation at a
> level suited to 8 to 10 year olds. This I did. Only when I
> arrived at the school was I informed that over 80% of the
> school population was of Turkish heritage. The ANZACS at
> Anzac Cove/Gallipoli were part of the British forces
> attempting to invade the land that later became modern
> Turkey. When I went in to the assembly to give my address I
> found that many parents and grand parents were there for the
> service as well. All listened most attentively to my
> address and applauded after. When the service finished one
> boy brought his grandfather over to say hello to me. The
> old man did not speak English but he wanted to shake my
> hand. His brother had been killed at Gallipoli fighting the
> ANZACS over 70 years before. Through his grandson he
> thanked Australia for letting him bring his family to this
> beautiful country.
>
> This year for the first time the families of Turkish
> veterans were officially invited to join the ANZAC Day
> marches with the families of our veterans. There are no
> Australian veterans of Gallipoli still living, but their
> families continue to represent them in marches. For many
> years Turkish veterans have joined local marches
> unofficially. But this year the invitation was made
> official, perhaps in long-overdue recognition of the respect
> and empathy so often displayed between the rank and file
> soldiers on both sides of that terrible conflict and so many
> others.
>
> So often those fighting deplore the loss of life and
> destruction they participate in, but they are powerless to
> stop it.
>
> The Australian ANZAC story
> http://www.anzacsite.gov.au/
> Gallipoli from the Turkish perspective
> http://www.iit.edu/~agunsal/canakkale/canwar.html
>
> I am of the generation that saw young men conscripted to
> serve in Viet Nam. I did not join the military until after
> that war, but I served with many who had seen service there.
> I am grateful every day that my training was only ever
> called upon for relief work for floods, bushfires, famines
> and SAR work.
> --
> CW
>
> "MRH" <mthecarpenterATxcelcoDOTonDOTca> wrote in message
> : I'm very sorry, CW. I had actually never heard of Anzac
> Day before, and I
> : didn't bother looking it up to find out what it was. I
> do know how I spend
> : quiet time on Remembrance Day (also observed here in
> Canada, by the way)
> : reflecting on those who lost their lives for our freedom,
> so now that I know
> : what Anzac Day is I will be careful not to say *Happy*
> Anzac Day again.
> : Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
> :
> : By the way... I don't remember seeing you here before...
> so, welcome to
> : RCTY.
> :
> : *hugs*
> : Gemini
> :
> :
>
>



Posted by CW on April 26, 2006, 7:52 pm
Thanks Gemini.

I probably won't post much, but I like to read about all
the things I used to do and that helps me to keep current on
new methods/patterns/gadgets. If it is OK with everyone I
think I will just stay quietly in the background. But I
love to sometimes drop in and see or hear about the
beautiful things you all make. I especially like to read
that someone has tried something new to them. We should all
try to learn something new every day - don't you think?
.
--
CW



"MRH" <mthecarpenterATxcelcoDOTonDOTca> wrote in message
: Thank you for sharing your story with us, CW. It was very
interesting! I
: had a lump in my throat and a tear in my eye when I read
about the
: grandfather who shook your hand.
:
: My Dad was in the Royal Canadian Navy during WWII. He
didn't speak much
: about the war... but what he did say definitely made you
realize that very
: few (if anyone at all) wanted to be involved in war and
killing other
: people... but it was a necessity of the times to keep the
free world free.
: He and most other servicemen (and women) knew that the
"enemy" were just as
: scared as they were and didn't really want to be doing
what they were doing.
: Some of the men in the Legion here in my town told stories
of when they
: happened upon an "enemy" and they were both frightened.
The were cautious
: because of what they were taught about each other, but
they didn't fire upon
: each other and instead exchanged smiles and nods and went
their own way to
: go about what they were heading for to begin with.
:
: Now that you have come out and posted for the first time,
I hope you will be
: a frequent visitor here. :o)
:
: If you would like to check out what a lot of us look like
(if your eyesight
: will allow you to view pictures okay), you can check them
out at the link
: following my signature. I'm not in the RCTY album, but
instead I am in my
: Family album... but there are plenty of others in the RCTY
album. If you
: have a picture of yourself that you would like added to
the album, just send
: it (jpg please) along to me at gemsawriter AT yahoo DOT ca
with RCTY Photos
: in the subject line and the name you use in the body of
the email for me to
: add to your picture.
:
: Oh by the way (everyone)... I thought I posted a message
about this, but I
: guess I either forgot or I'm just not seeing the
message... Norma sent me a
: more updated picture of she and Wade for the album. :o)
: --
: Gemini
: http://photos.yahoo.com/gemsawriter
:




Posted by Gwen on April 28, 2006, 7:35 am


Cw that is a lovely story of the Turkish grandfather - the Turks and the
Anzaca had great respect for each other. I remember when on a visit to the
USA we were in a shop in down town Los Angles on Anzac Day and talked for a
moment or two to the shopowner who hastely left us and rushed out the back
of his shop - we wondered why the haste- and he returned with a bottle of
wime saying that he realised that we were Australians ( who could note the
accent !! ) and told us he was Turkish and felt such respect for our forces
that he wanted to give us this gift. To say we were totally taken aback is
putting it mildly - but we were very touched by his gesture and spen quite a
bit o f time with him which was interesting. God Bless Gwen


> Thanks for the welcome Gemini. I lurk mostly, but rarely
> post. Poor eyesight restricts my use of the computer.
>
> I did not intend to "correct" anyone, just to try to explain
> why ANZAC Day is special to many Australians.
>
> The following is way OT and rather sombre in tone, so please
> feel free not to read further. I would not normally presume
> to post on such a subject here, but this is part of the
> reason why ANZAC Day is so special to me.
>
> When I was still in uniform all the officers from my Base in
> Sydney were assigned schools in our area, where we would
> attend school ANZAC Services in the days leading up to the
> 25th. I was given the name of a school and told that it was
> normal to prepare a short address about the landing at Anzac
> Cove and it's significance to Australia as a nation at a
> level suited to 8 to 10 year olds. This I did. Only when I
> arrived at the school was I informed that over 80% of the
> school population was of Turkish heritage. The ANZACS at
> Anzac Cove/Gallipoli were part of the British forces
> attempting to invade the land that later became modern
> Turkey. When I went in to the assembly to give my address I
> found that many parents and grand parents were there for the
> service as well. All listened most attentively to my
> address and applauded after. When the service finished one
> boy brought his grandfather over to say hello to me. The
> old man did not speak English but he wanted to shake my
> hand. His brother had been killed at Gallipoli fighting the
> ANZACS over 70 years before. Through his grandson he
> thanked Australia for letting him bring his family to this
> beautiful country.
>
> This year for the first time the families of Turkish
> veterans were officially invited to join the ANZAC Day
> marches with the families of our veterans. There are no
> Australian veterans of Gallipoli still living, but their
> families continue to represent them in marches. For many
> years Turkish veterans have joined local marches
> unofficially. But this year the invitation was made
> official, perhaps in long-overdue recognition of the respect
> and empathy so often displayed between the rank and file
> soldiers on both sides of that terrible conflict and so many
> others.
>
> So often those fighting deplore the loss of life and
> destruction they participate in, but they are powerless to
> stop it.
>
> The Australian ANZAC story
> http://www.anzacsite.gov.au/
> Gallipoli from the Turkish perspective
> http://www.iit.edu/~agunsal/canakkale/canwar.html
>
> I am of the generation that saw young men conscripted to
> serve in Viet Nam. I did not join the military until after
> that war, but I served with many who had seen service there.
> I am grateful every day that my training was only ever
> called upon for relief work for floods, bushfires, famines
> and SAR work.
> --
> CW
>
> "MRH" <mthecarpenterATxcelcoDOTonDOTca> wrote in message
> : I'm very sorry, CW. I had actually never heard of Anzac
> Day before, and I
> : didn't bother looking it up to find out what it was. I
> do know how I spend
> : quiet time on Remembrance Day (also observed here in
> Canada, by the way)
> : reflecting on those who lost their lives for our freedom,
> so now that I know
> : what Anzac Day is I will be careful not to say *Happy*
> Anzac Day again.
> : Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
> :
> : By the way... I don't remember seeing you here before...
> so, welcome to
> : RCTY.
> :
> : *hugs*
> : Gemini
> :
> :
>
>




Posted by Gwen on April 27, 2006, 8:42 am
Gemini I might just add another note to this - first I do think "happy Anzac
day " is fine - see my other posts. Anzac day is very special in Australia
and New Zealand because it not only honours the fallen soldiers, sailors and
air men and women of both countries but also joins the two countries
together is a way no other country is joined to us and I am sure the NZers
would say the same. The name Anzac is made from the words Australian and
New Zaland Army Coprs. and that is a tie kin to how the ex soldies marching
with their old comrades must feel--- a joining that reaches above all
others. I think all Australia stops at 11 am on both Anzac day and
Rememberence day (11th November the day WW1 finished- the 11th hour of the
11th day of the 11th month) to take a minutes silence whether at home at
work or at play. God Bless Gwen
"MRH" <mthecarpenterATxcelcoDOTonDOTca> wrote in message
> I'm very sorry, CW. I had actually never heard of Anzac Day before, and I
> didn't bother looking it up to find out what it was. I do know how I
> spend quiet time on Remembrance Day (also observed here in Canada, by the
> way) reflecting on those who lost their lives for our freedom, so now that
> I know what Anzac Day is I will be careful not to say *Happy* Anzac Day
> again. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
>
> By the way... I don't remember seeing you here before... so, welcome to
> RCTY.
>
> *hugs*
> Gemini
>



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