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Posted by Mary Fisher on September 12, 2008, 11:22 am
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>>>> The person who's asked about it has now said that it was bought at a
>>>> yard >>> sale and they were told it was a shuttle - they didn't know!
>>> Oh, it might be a weaving shuttle then, but usually the ends are notched
>>> to keep the yarn from slipping off.
>> How would the yarn be held on it?
> If the yarn is wound onto it in a figure of 8 pattern, it would stay on.
> I've used a ruler as a shuttle doing the same thing.
I think that would be a make-do - the ruler wasn't intended as a shuttle. If
you sold the ruler you'd used like that would you call it a shuttle?
Mary
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Posted by FarmI on September 13, 2008, 3:44 am
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>>>>> The person who's asked about it has now said that it was bought at a
>>>>> yard >>> sale and they were told it was a shuttle - they didn't know!
>>>> Oh, it might be a weaving shuttle then, but usually the ends are
>>>> notched to keep the yarn from slipping off.
>>> How would the yarn be held on it?
>> If the yarn is wound onto it in a figure of 8 pattern, it would stay on.
>> I've used a ruler as a shuttle doing the same thing.
> I think that would be a make-do - the ruler wasn't intended as a shuttle.
> If you sold the ruler you'd used like that would you call it a shuttle?
No I wouldn't. But I know it's a ruler and I also know that it isn't shaped
in such a way that indicates it is designed to do the job. It was a stopgap
measure.
However, as I pointed out in my last post, the 'thing' you have is shaped in
such a way that it would actually work in a way that is more difficult for a
ruler to do.
If the ruler works, (and it did, and did so well except for the initial
winding on of yarn) and it's only really a straight stick, then think how
much better it would work if it was shaped like the 'thing' you have in your
possession.
Try winding some yarn on it and also on a ruler using the figure of 8 wind.
If you can't tell the difference between the two and how much better a fat
bellied 'thing' works, I'd be very surprised. It wouldn't hold a lot of
yarn but for a feature thread in a woven piece used as an ocassional repeat,
it would hold enough.
I couldn't see a burning need to own a lot of those things though, so now
I'm wondering how many they asked you to replicate and why. I would have
thought that owning one as a curiosity item in a collection of 'stuff' would
have been enough.
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Posted by Mary Fisher on September 14, 2008, 5:36 am
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> If the ruler works, (and it did, and did so well except for the initial
> winding on of yarn) and it's only really a straight stick, then think how
> much better it would work if it was shaped like the 'thing' you have in
> your possession.
You haven't read all this thread, it's not in my possession, it was a query
from someone in USA - which is why I specified US responses, it might have
been something local.
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> Try winding some yarn on it
See above.
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> I couldn't see a burning need to own a lot of those things though, so now
> I'm wondering how many they asked you to replicate and why. I would have
> thought that owning one as a curiosity item in a collection of 'stuff'
> would have been enough.
So would I. We were asked because we make (and use) shuttles of several
various types and in different materials - including bone - for museums,
films, collectors and re-enactors and have never seen anything like this
item. The person who asked only said it was a shuttle because she was told
that when she bought it from a yard sale - which is, of course, unreliable.
She didn't want a number of copies, just one, and I don't know why. She's
not a weaver but it's not my place to ask why another was required.
Mary
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Posted by FarmI on September 14, 2008, 11:14 pm
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>> If the ruler works, (and it did, and did so well except for the initial
>> winding on of yarn) and it's only really a straight stick, then think how
>> much better it would work if it was shaped like the 'thing' you have in
>> your possession.
> You haven't read all this thread, it's not in my possession, it was a
> query from someone in USA - which is why I specified US responses, it
> might have > been something local.
I have read all the thread. You never mentioned that it wasn't in your
possession. I did understand that the item had been found in the US.
I falsely assumed that since you had been asked to "replicate" it and
provided the dimentions of the item, that it must be in your possession.
Mea culpa. My craft interests resulted in me falsely assuming that
"replicate" meant just that, not a best guess reproduction.
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>> Try winding some yarn on it
> See above.
Once the repro is completed it might be worth giving my suggestion a try
just to satisfy your curiosity as to whether it would work as a shuttle. I
have ever confidence it will based on my ruler experience.
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>> I couldn't see a burning need to own a lot of those things though, so now
>> I'm wondering how many they asked you to replicate and why. I would have
>> thought that owning one as a curiosity item in a collection of 'stuff'
>> would have been enough.
> So would I. We were asked because we make (and use) shuttles of several
> various types and in different materials - including bone - for museums,
> films, collectors and re-enactors and have never seen anything like this
> item.
Neither have I, but given my use of a ruler as an effective shuttle, I could
well believe that your client bone 'thing' could be indeed be a shuttle.
Mind you, it could also be a dibble, a spirtle or something else.
The person who asked only said it was a shuttle because she was told
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> that when she bought it from a yard sale - which is, of course,
> unreliable.
Indeed. See above.
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> She didn't want a number of copies, just one, and I don't know why. She's
> not a weaver but it's not my place to ask why another was required.
Indeed. So long as the client is willing to pay for it who cares what it's
used for.
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Posted by on September 10, 2008, 2:56 pm
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> Can you identify this, please?
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=3Deaqis8&s=3D4
> Mary
Maybe a bone sword [to push the threads] shuttle ??? i am not so
sure , might also have been used for help in working/making
baskets !!!
mirjam
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>>>> yard >>> sale and they were told it was a shuttle - they didn't know!
>>> Oh, it might be a weaving shuttle then, but usually the ends are notched
>>> to keep the yarn from slipping off.
>> How would the yarn be held on it?
> If the yarn is wound onto it in a figure of 8 pattern, it would stay on.
> I've used a ruler as a shuttle doing the same thing.