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unual knit. pete_dl 06-23-2008
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Posted by pete_dl on June 24, 2008, 6:22 pm

Thanks for all the replies.

The fabric I would like to make is like a horizontal venetian blind
which is near to translucent when looking down at the fabric but is
opaque when viewed from below.

Following up Tamar's suggestion, I had a look for online stitch
dictionaries that mention a bell stitch. Unfortunately I could not
find it. Is there a definitive stitch dictionary I should be looking
at?

>I must say i could SEE what she had in mind ,, must think about it a
> bit more , it sounds more like a woven cloth to me than a knitted
> one !!!

Could you explain why ? As a novice to this subject, I assumed that if
this cloth does exist, it would be knitted. This is because I read
that knitting has greatest potential for variety of shapes.

Having looked at some of the most common stitches, they all seem to be
vertically symmetrical in cross section. The =93venetian blind=94 fabric
would have a vertical asymmetry in the cross section. This discourages
me as to the likelihood that such a stitch exists.

Thanks for any further comments.

Pete

Posted by Samantha Hill - remove TRASH t on June 24, 2008, 6:59 pm
pete_dl wrote:
> Thanks for all the replies.
>
> The fabric I would like to make is like a horizontal venetian blind
> which is near to translucent when looking down at the fabric but is
> opaque when viewed from below.


It sounds like what you want to make is something on the line of a
honeycomb blind in that it is three-dimensional.

Posted by Bernadette on June 24, 2008, 7:45 pm
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:22:42 -0700, pete_dl wrote:

>
> Thanks for all the replies.
>
> The fabric I would like to make is like a horizontal venetian blind which
> is near to translucent when looking down at the fabric but is opaque when
> viewed from below.
>
> Following up Tamar's suggestion, I had a look for online stitch
> dictionaries that mention a bell stitch. Unfortunately I could not find
> it. Is there a definitive stitch dictionary I should be looking at?

The site I use for information about stitches is at:
http://www.knittingfool.com/ where 1400 different knitting stitches are
displayed. You don't need to subscribe, you can just look at them all and
they give details of how to knit them. If you start at "A" and work your
way through you should be able to find something similar to the one you
want. It will take you quite some time!

Good luck in your search.

>
>>I must say i could SEE what she had in mind ,, must think about it a
>> bit more , it sounds more like a woven cloth to me than a knitted one
>> !!!
>
> Could you explain why ? As a novice to this subject, I assumed that if
> this cloth does exist, it would be knitted. This is because I read that
> knitting has greatest potential for variety of shapes.
>
> Having looked at some of the most common stitches, they all seem to be
> vertically symmetrical in cross section. The "venetian blind" fabric
> would have a vertical asymmetry in the cross section. This discourages me
> as to the likelihood that such a stitch exists.
>
> Thanks for any further comments.
>
> Pete
--
Bernadette

Posted by on June 24, 2008, 11:10 pm
> Thanks for all the replies.
>
> The fabric I would like to make is like a horizontal venetian blind
> which is =A0near to translucent when looking down at the fabric but is
> opaque when viewed from below.
>
> Following up Tamar's suggestion, I had a look for online stitch
> dictionaries that mention a bell stitch. Unfortunately I could not
> find it. Is there a definitive stitch dictionary I should be looking
> at?
>
> >I must say i could SEE what she had in mind ,, must think about it a
> > bit more , it sounds more like a woven cloth to me than a knitted
> > one !!!
>
> Could you explain why ? As a novice to this subject, I assumed that if
> this cloth does exist, it would be knitted. This is because I read
> that knitting has greatest potential for variety of shapes.
>
> Having looked at some of the most common stitches, they all seem to be
> vertically symmetrical in cross section. The =93venetian blind=94 fabric
> would have a vertical asymmetry in the cross section. This discourages
> me as to the likelihood that such a stitch exists.
>
> Thanks for any further comments.
>
> Pete

Because you speak of Vertical and horizontal `stitches that cross`
each other , it Reads to me woven Warp and weft , which Cross each
other ,. knitted stitches LOOP one on top of each other and one beside
each other.
When you weave=3Dcross the warp & weft , you can controll how many
threads you have under and how many on top , and thus have a Different
look from each angle.
mirjam



Posted by Richard Eney on June 25, 2008, 10:51 pm
>
>Thanks for all the replies.
>
>The fabric I would like to make is like a horizontal venetian blind
>which is near to translucent when looking down at the fabric but is
>opaque when viewed from below.

Ah, I had it upside down. So in essence what you want would be
like a curtain for an upstairs window that would let in light
from above but block the view from below. Like roofing tiles
to shed the rain only aimed up instead of down.

>Following up Tamar's suggestion, I had a look for online stitch
>dictionaries that mention a bell stitch. Unfortunately I could
>not find it. Is there a definitive stitch dictionary I should
>be looking at?
<snip>

It took me a while to find it; I seem to have been over-optimistic.
The pattern I was thinking of is "Embossed Bell Motif" on
page 138 of _A Treasury of Knitting Patterns_ by Barbara Walker;
it's the first "treasury" of her series of books, which are readily
available (I think Schoolhouse Press is reprinting them now).
However, "Bells and Bell-Ropes" on the same page may be more useful.
Both of them have the openings downward and the fabric would have
to be used as if knitted top-down so as to have the openings upward.

Both of the above are fairly heavy patterns. If you want a lighter
fabric, there is another stitch in the same book that may be
more like what you want. On page 130 "Coral Knot Stitch" has a
relatively flat row, then a slight ridge, and right next to the
ridge is a row of small eyelets. Again, it would have to be
used with the stitch pattern knitted downward to have the slight
ridge block the small eyelets from the looking-upward direction.

If these don't work, you may want to look into crochet, to get
a thicker ridge and then pick up some more open stitches from
slightly below the edge to make the ridge project outward and
block the openings. It would be possible to do that with knitting
but much easier and faster with crochet.

=Tamar


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