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v-e-r-y OFF topic, a query about Catholic statues YarnWright 04-09-2007
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Posted by YarnWright on April 12, 2007, 11:30 pm
YarnWright spun a FINE 'yarn':

> YarnWright spun a FINE 'yarn':
>
> > Not Likely spun a FINE 'yarn':
> >
> > > > suzee spun a FINE 'yarn':
> > > >
> > > > > YarnWright wrote:
> > > >>> suzee spun a FINE 'yarn':
> > > > > >
> > > >>> > YarnWright wrote:
> > > >>> > > Some of my family is Catholic and they've got an ongoing argument
> > > >
> > > > > query >>> > > about placing a statue of Joseph in your yard when
> > > > > trying
> > > to sell > > > your >>> > > home. SOME say you bury him upside down, some
> > > say you bury him > > > facing >>> > > away from the home, and some say
> > > you do both. >>> > > Anybody know?
> > > >>> > > I personally don't believe in this, and am not Catholic myself,
> > > but
> > > > > > am >>> > > willing to help the family out with the right answer.
> > > >>> > > Thanks!
> > > >>> > > Noreen
> > > >
> > > > Yes, like the Irish with St. Patrick, the Poles (and Italians) in
> > > > Chicago and up in WI claimed St. Joe, BIG-time, on March 19. In
> > > > Chicago, all the Poles and Italians wore RED on St. Joes Day...
> > > > funny that I still remember all this, it's a LONG time ago that the
> > > > Church left me and I later left it....
> > > > :D
> > > > Noreen
> > >
> > > I was born and raised a Roman Catholic, and never heard of this
> > > superstition (and my Mom was from an Irish background and was very
> > > superstitious) until I moved into this house 3 1/2 years ago and the
> > > neighbour (a Dutch Roman Catholic) was trying to sell her house... she
> > > mentioned it to me then. She also said something about painting her door
> > > yellow to boost the sale of her house. Nothing to do with the statue,
> > > but a completely different superstition. Personally I find it
> > > disrespectful to bury a statue of any saint.
> > >
> > > By the way... although you may not have meant it as such, I also find it
> > > disrespectful to call St Joseph "St Joe" just as I do not like to hear
> > > some people call St Anthony "St Tony". Unless you lived back when they
> > > did and knew them personally (which I highly doubt that anyone shortened
> > > names back then anyway), I don't think it is very nice to abbreviate
> > > someone's (most especially a saint's) name to make him/her sound like
> > > they are your buddy.
> > >
> > > Just my opinion!
> > > Gemini
> > >
> > <end quoted>
> >
> > Gem,
> > Sorry, didn't mean to offend, but gotta tell ya, our church,the one I grew
> > up in, honest to god, was St' Joe's. NOT St. Joesph's. St. JOE'S.
> > Noreen
>
> AND, maybe it was a Chicago thing, but the church my Dad grew up in was not
> St. Patrick's, but St. Paddy's, honest to god, AND the church my uncle Lefty
> grew up in was St. Aggie's NOT St. Agnes's!
> Just my two cents,
> Noreen
> Oh, mom says her church, St. Stanislas Kostka, had the official *letterhead of
> St. Stash's*, and that one was in northern Wisc.
<end quoted>

OH! Gem, I DO agree about burying seeming sacriledge.
(My mother, to this day, cringes when a loaf of bread is upside down, she feels
the "lord" is upside down when you do that.....)
Silly, eh?
Noreen





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Posted by Not Likely on April 14, 2007, 12:38 pm
> YarnWright spun a FINE 'yarn':
>
>> YarnWright spun a FINE 'yarn':
>>
>> > Not Likely spun a FINE 'yarn':
>> >
>> > > I was born and raised a Roman Catholic, and never heard of this
>> > > superstition (and my Mom was from an Irish background and was very
>> > > superstitious) until I moved into this house 3 1/2 years ago and the
>> > > neighbour (a Dutch Roman Catholic) was trying to sell her house...
>> > > she
>> > > mentioned it to me then. She also said something about painting her
>> > > door
>> > > yellow to boost the sale of her house. Nothing to do with the
>> > > statue,
>> > > but a completely different superstition. Personally I find it
>> > > disrespectful to bury a statue of any saint.
>> > >
>> > > By the way... although you may not have meant it as such, I also find
>> > > it
>> > > disrespectful to call St Joseph "St Joe" just as I do not like to
>> > > hear
>> > > some people call St Anthony "St Tony". Unless you lived back when
>> > > they
>> > > did and knew them personally (which I highly doubt that anyone
>> > > shortened
>> > > names back then anyway), I don't think it is very nice to abbreviate
>> > > someone's (most especially a saint's) name to make him/her sound like
>> > > they are your buddy.
>> > >
>> > > Just my opinion!
>> > > Gemini
>> > >
>> > <end quoted>
>> >
>> > Gem,
>> > Sorry, didn't mean to offend, but gotta tell ya, our church,the one I
>> > grew
>> > up in, honest to god, was St' Joe's. NOT St. Joesph's. St. JOE'S.
>> > Noreen
>>
>> AND, maybe it was a Chicago thing, but the church my Dad grew up in was
>> not
>> St. Patrick's, but St. Paddy's, honest to god, AND the church my uncle
>> Lefty
>> grew up in was St. Aggie's NOT St. Agnes's!
>> Just my two cents,
>> Noreen
>> Oh, mom says her church, St. Stanislas Kostka, had the official
>> *letterhead of
>> St. Stash's*, and that one was in northern Wisc.
> <end quoted>
>
> OH! Gem, I DO agree about burying seeming sacriledge.
> (My mother, to this day, cringes when a loaf of bread is upside down, she
> feels
> the "lord" is upside down when you do that.....)
> Silly, eh?
> Noreen

I didn't mean to sound pious or anything, I am far from that. I honestly
never heard of any church abbreviating the names of the Saints... and always
cringe when I hear it.

About your Mom and the bread... I *vaguely* remember my own Mom saying
something about that, but her main thing was if bread fell on the floor, she
always said "Someone belonging to me (ie family) is hungry. ;o)

As for religious superstitions... she hung the rosary on the clothesline on
my wedding day so it wouldn't rain... and it didn't, even though the sky was
very heavy with rain clouds most of the day. I remember Father Boyer
grinning at her when she told him... he said his own mother used to do the
same thing. ;o) That is the *only* religious superstition that has been
done in our family though.

*hugs*
Gem



Posted by YarnWright on April 14, 2007, 2:36 pm
Not Likely spun a FINE 'yarn':

> > YarnWright spun a FINE 'yarn':
> >
> > > YarnWright spun a FINE 'yarn':
> > >
> >>> Not Likely spun a FINE 'yarn':
> > > >
> >>> > I was born and raised a Roman Catholic, and never heard of this
> >>> > superstition (and my Mom was from an Irish background and was very
> >>> > superstitious) until I moved into this house 3 1/2 years ago and the
> >>> > neighbour (a Dutch Roman Catholic) was trying to sell her house... > >
> she >>> > mentioned it to me then. She also said something about painting
> her > > door >>> > yellow to boost the sale of her house. Nothing to do
> with the > > statue, >>> > but a completely different superstition.
> Personally I find it >>> > disrespectful to bury a statue of any saint.
> >>> >
> >>> > By the way... although you may not have meant it as such, I also find
> > > it >>> > disrespectful to call St Joseph "St Joe" just as I do not like
> to > > hear >>> > some people call St Anthony "St Tony". Unless you lived
> back when > > they >>> > did and knew them personally (which I highly doubt
> that anyone > > shortened >>> > names back then anyway), I don't think it is
> very nice to abbreviate >>> > someone's (most especially a saint's) name to
> make him/her sound like >>> > they are your buddy.
> >>> >
> >>> > Just my opinion!
> >>> > Gemini
> >>> >
> >>> <end quoted>
> > > >
> >>> Gem,
> >>> Sorry, didn't mean to offend, but gotta tell ya, our church,the one I >
> grew >>> up in, honest to god, was St' Joe's. NOT St. Joesph's. St. JOE'S.
> >>> Noreen
> > >
> > > AND, maybe it was a Chicago thing, but the church my Dad grew up in was
> > > not St. Patrick's, but St. Paddy's, honest to god, AND the church my
> > > uncle Lefty grew up in was St. Aggie's NOT St. Agnes's!
> > > Just my two cents,
> > > Noreen
> > > Oh, mom says her church, St. Stanislas Kostka, had the official
> > > *letterhead of St. Stash's*, and that one was in northern Wisc.
> > <end quoted>
> >
> > OH! Gem, I DO agree about burying seeming sacriledge.
> > (My mother, to this day, cringes when a loaf of bread is upside down, she
> > feels the "lord" is upside down when you do that.....)
> > Silly, eh?
> > Noreen
>
> I didn't mean to sound pious or anything, I am far from that. I honestly
> never heard of any church abbreviating the names of the Saints... and always
> cringe when I hear it.
>
> About your Mom and the bread... I vaguely remember my own Mom saying
> something about that, but her main thing was if bread fell on the floor, she
> always said "Someone belonging to me (ie family) is hungry. ;o)
>
> As for religious superstitions... she hung the rosary on the clothesline on
> my wedding day so it wouldn't rain... and it didn't, even though the sky was
> very heavy with rain clouds most of the day. I remember Father Boyer
> grinning at her when she told him... he said his own mother used to do the
> same thing. ;o) That is the only religious superstition that has been done
> in our family though.
>
> hugs
> Gem
>

<end quoted>

Not Likely. . .

Wow, never heard of the Rosary one, will have to ask my Mom about that! :D
As for the Church's using the short names or nicknames, the girls or boys
basketball teams (all these Church's mentioned in Chicago) really did have St.
Joes, etc on their uniforms..
Noreen

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Posted by Not Likely on April 14, 2007, 12:44 pm
>
> OH! Gem, I DO agree about burying seeming sacriledge.
> (My mother, to this day, cringes when a loaf of bread is upside down, she
> feels
> the "lord" is upside down when you do that.....)
> Silly, eh?
> Noreen

You know... the bread thing is likely because in the church bread is thought
of as the body of Christ, hence the communion host (flat bread wafers). So
your Mom and all the others before her obviously got it from that. :o)

*hugs*
Gem



Posted by YarnWright on April 14, 2007, 2:36 pm
Not Likely spun a FINE 'yarn':

> >
> > OH! Gem, I DO agree about burying seeming sacriledge.
> > (My mother, to this day, cringes when a loaf of bread is upside down, she
> > feels the "lord" is upside down when you do that.....)
> > Silly, eh?
> > Noreen
>
> You know... the bread thing is likely because in the church bread is thought
> of as the body of Christ, hence the communion host (flat bread wafers). So
> your Mom and all the others before her obviously got it from that. :o)
>
> *hugs*
> Gem
>

<end quoted>

Not Likely. . .(Gem)
I think you're correct! Although, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Communion
bread, or WAFERS made from unleavened bread??
Just wondering...
Noreen


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